Or how about this one. Receiver is not there to unload after your told YOU MUST BE THERE at 2:00pm. Job Site Load. Receiver is still at his home base 3 hours away, and lying through his teeth to the broker that you supposedly called him and told him your going to be late.
Funny thing is, I send an email every time he arrives at his destination, and it has a time stamp on it, so they know who's lying.
Please Explain This To Me
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by BookingYou19, Sep 25, 2013.
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I show up prepared to haul the load as described to me and in the rate confirmation. That's kind of like my job... Describing it correctly is kind of like your job...
Now if it's heavier, you failed. If it's lighter you sort of failed too, but no big deal. If there are additional stops, you failed. If there are less stops, again you failed but we let you off the hook.
You may have a point with detention and being late. I've seen late penalties in some contracts, if the shipper fines you I suppose you're entitled. If they didn't care when it got there then you should have had a two day window on the rate confirmation to begin with. There's nothing worse than when I run into trouble on the road and stay up all night with repairs or various troubles just to get to the reciever and be told they weren't expecting me til tomorrow. Or bust my balls to get to someplace by 3pm and it turns out they're open til 5.
No you're not getting money back after the rate confirmation is in hand, you're supposed to know what the load is it's your job. -
Shipper detention steals that slack time from me, so I ask for compensation. Starting with hours or days delay getting started, then onward if there are extended problems with delivery appointments and a reload I may already have booked. The way I see it, that slack time is my time in the first place. Therefore you will not get a discount for me making it less.
For your weekend example, it would be a remote maybe. It would only be meaningful to me if the load came off the truck early enough to have a chance at a reload, and it would need to be close to home. Otherwise, your asking me to buy back my time again. I actually have one customer where this comes up. They already know I'll accept their ok rate if the product comes off the truck Saturday morning on a Friday pickup. If the delivery is later, my price will likely be too high for them. I don't get mad about it and they can easily cover the load with someone else. Or they up their rate to get me in there. They're cool to work with so I still call every time I'm thru their area. Frankly it's no skin off my butt to run back MT if it doesn't work out. I'll burn around $200 fuel and not have to babysit the load and be tied up half a day on Monday for nothing. Possibly even pick up a big $$ spot load over the weekend since my equipment is available. Makes up for the refused load and then some.ShortBusKid and bullhaulerswife Thank this. -
This person has some "innovative" ideas alright. This reminds me of the HHG industry about the mid eighties. Discounting, guaranteed linehauls, penalties for missing windows for circumstances beyond control, all great ideas about trucking from the SALES department. They are always trying to reinvent the wheel in someone else's area of expertise. If brokers are losing money on loads then maybe they should raise rates to shippers maybe?
Here's a thought. Why do we let Fortune 500 companies off so easily? They are more profitable than they have ever been and we have people moaning on here about having to put a extra $500 on a load of produce. Charge it back to THEIR ##### when something goes wrong. They are the entity that is being let off the hook here. -
Now I remember why quit running my own authority....
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I'm saying, why do we have to pay you layover for an extra day if it is the same amount of miles? You cant use the miles and the time argument at the same time, it is one or the other. -
I will load those same carriers but it is a lot harder for them to get the rate they want, or to get as much detention the next time, or to get a shipper or receiver who is FCFS to make them a priority. -
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Most shippers are up our arse and around the corner if a shipment isnt on time, which means our account managers are up our arse if the load is late. But if it is on time, you guys are up our arse about detention, so we kind of get it from all angles unless it is on time and unloaded in a timely fashion. Yet it is all the brokre agents fault.
If you would honestly be unwilling to give any money back if removed miles and drops and days and work. You would just simply taken off of the load and we would find a carrier who would. Nothing personal, just how things work. We know what the load is, it is produce, it changes, it is unpredictable, drivers are supposed to be flexible, its your job.
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