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POSSIBLE RECESSION and starting as and Owner Operator?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by JR28262, Dec 27, 2018.

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crocky said: ↑

Their making more because freight is up and companies are forced to pay more to keep you.. Not because of tax cuts... it's basic free market..

Show me a single trucking major company that gave out tax cut bonuses or raises because of the tax cuts... They gave raises because the freight was strong and too many companies are looking for drivers.

That's all good for this year.. what happens next year if we do end up in a recession?
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You are just like the media and left. Can turn every single positive into a negative. And besides, we’re notnjust talking about trucking companies here. Good day.

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It's called reality.. you also forget about the rest of the taxes that keeps our govt running. Not just income tax but sales tax. Use tax, property tax ect..ect.. the bottom 50% as you claim still pay that and pay a whole hell lot more of it than anyone else..

You can aspire to be a 1% but how many truck drivers do you know who earn $422k a year? That's the low guy on the 1%er list. Thats not having asets equaling that much but earns that much..

I'm not anti rich guy or anti 1% I'm pro reality.. 100 people will buy 100 cars, will register 100 cars, will fuel 100 cars.. 1 rich guy might buy 5 cars... which will grow the econemy the 100 guys spending or the 1?

The middle class is what built this country and we have polititions who are doing everything possible to destroy the middle class. Give real tax cuts to the middle class if you want to grow the econemy not to the rich guys who are already rich..

You grow by bringing the next group up... not pushing them down from the top..
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Facts !

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You are just like the media and left. Can turn every single positive into a negative. And besides, we’re notnjust talking about trucking companies here. Good day.
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The current trade war is not a "positive" for a hell of a lot of people... people are getting laid off, losing their jobs.. perhaps you should wake up to that..

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The current trade war is not a "positive" for a hell of a lot of people... people are getting laid off, losing their jobs.. perhaps you should wake up to that..
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What should we do then?

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What should we do then?
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I guess kept NAFTA and lost the remaining manufacturing jobs we had left. Losing millions of jobs over 25 yrs isn’t enough for them.

Guess we should keep importing cheap labor, exporting good jobs, and leave our border open. We can all hold hands and sing a tune while our gov “takes care of us”.

Besides I’ve saw no evidence of anyone losing their jobs. There are more jobs available then people looking for them.

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What should we do then?
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He has no idea, hes only an expert on criticism and bullllshit. When it comes to solving problems, hes as confused as a baby raccoon.

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I guess kept NAFTA and lost the remaining manufacturing jobs we had left. Losing millions of jobs over 25 yrs isn’t enough for them.

Guess we should keep importing cheap labor, exporting good jobs, and leave our border open. We can all hold hands and sing a tune while our gov “takes care of us”.

Besides I’ve saw no evidence of anyone losing their jobs. There are more jobs available then people looking for them.
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The only diffrence in NAFTA for manufacturing is...

The new deal increases the portion of a car that needs to be produced in North America to 75 percent to avoid tariffs. It also requires at least 40 percent of that come from factories where the average wage is $16/hour.

Previously it was 62% with no minimum wage. Considering both Canada and Mexico are "North America" cars can still be made either of those places.

All Trump did was update NAFTA to be a bit more modern and that's a big win to you? How is that bringing jobs back?

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crocky said: ↑

The only diffrence in NAFTA for manufacturing is...

The new deal increases the portion of a car that needs to be produced in North America to 75 percent to avoid tariffs. It also requires at least 40 percent of that come from factories where the average wage is $16/hour.

Previously it was 62% with no minimum wage. Considering both Canada and Mexico are "North America" cars can still be made either of those places.

All Trump did was update NAFTA to be a bit more modern and that's a big win to you? How is that bringing jobs back?
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The question stands; what should we do then?

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What should we do then?
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Humm. Let me think real hard... humm our econemy was at a all time high with everythi g the way it was in 2015, 2016, 2017.. it was steadily growing by doing nothing at all...

Humm what would I do? I would have paid down our national debt not give tax breaks until that was done...

But you know logic and all... obviously the better idea is spend more, tax less borrow more...it appears thats what you guys are rooting for...

Me I'm for accountability and fiscal responsibility.. something no Republican or Democrat knows the meaning of..

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Humm. Let me think real hard... humm our econemy was at a all time high with everythi g the way it was in 2015, 2016, 2017.. it was steadily growing by doing nothing at all...

Humm what would I do? I would have paid down our national debt not give tax breaks u til that was done...
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That sounds quite grandiose. 2015? All time high?

Who constructed the national budget?

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