Possible to build leaf springs on a semi?

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by EurekaSevven, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2015
    Messages:
    29,269
    Thanks Received:
    160,077
    Location:
    Canuckistan
    0
    Even the air ride setup Navistar uses looks like a knock-off of Freightliner Airliner.
     
    SmallPackage and Last Call Thank this.
  2. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    57,440
    Thanks Received:
    393,259
    0
    Freightliner is the best.
     
  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2015
    Messages:
    29,269
    Thanks Received:
    160,077
    Location:
    Canuckistan
    0
    For the highway, you definitely can't beat Airliner. Its so simple and hardly ever have things go wrong. Plus you can rebushing the whole suspension in a matter of a few hours.

    Off road, Neway or Hendrickson Primaax all the way.
     
  4. spsauerland

    spsauerland Road Train Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    4,296
    Thanks Received:
    10,889
    Location:
    West Harrison, In
    0
    I think Airliner is over-rated. Best thing about it is relatively cheap. Reason I don't like is U-bolts not only clamp spring to axle, but also supports the weight of the truck. See lots of stretched U-bolts because of this, same on Pete Flex Air or KW AG380 and the International IROS. I like Pete New low air leaf or KW AG400L because spring is above axle so U-bolts is for clamping only.
     
    Last Call Thanks this.
  5. spsauerland

    spsauerland Road Train Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    4,296
    Thanks Received:
    10,889
    Location:
    West Harrison, In
    0
    International IROS and Low Air Leaf/AG 400L are both built by Hendrickson.
     
  6. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    4,489
    Thanks Received:
    6,540
    0
    I understand simple is normally better how ever some things I cannot explain. Why do Freightliner air ride trucks get stuck in parking lot holes that the 8 bag deal does not? Why do some air ride trucks get stuck on farm roads in sugar sand and the old KW will drive around them on worse ground? The others do just as well on the highway and yes less bags to maintain.
     
    W923, spsauerland, skallagrime and 2 others Thank this.
  7. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,856
    Thanks Received:
    9,943
    Location:
    Indiana
    0
    Ive got ag100 and any time i have had an issue, it was an old bag i knew i shoulda replaced, its just a 3-4 year maintenance item the way i see it
     
    BoxCarKidd Thanks this.
  8. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    4,489
    Thanks Received:
    6,540
    0
    We up graded that AG100 to something else. Frame brackets in the center and such. It has been dependable and is an 89 model.
     
  9. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2019
    Messages:
    5,511
    Thanks Received:
    17,565
    Location:
    Marion Texas
    0
    Friend of mine has my uncles old ‘72 358. Painted identical to my ‘67. This truck has the original stabile-aire. People all the time think its a Freightliner cut-off added to it. Nope.
    It’s a cool old girl. All aluminum tilt needle nose and Last year for the old Unilite cab. It was built in ‘72 but sat in limbo at dealership for a year while Pete was doing the new 1100 cab changeover so this truck was actually sold and titled as a ‘73 which makes it even more interesting.
    I’m not exactly sure when the staible-air was sold off to FL but my ‘73 352 has original Air Leaf and my Uncle bought three new ‘74 359’s all with Air Trac. One of those became a cut-off for my ‘67 back in 1992 when he wanted to 20” to wb after length laws were lifted.
     
    BoxCarKidd, spsauerland and AModelCat Thank this.