Quick Question- log book requirement

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by macmikey, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. end of the road

    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    If that company is paying you for this task I bet they would expect you to get this information from the actual DOT and not from some web forum.

    Not to dispute anything you have been told here but if it were to come down to legal issues like this I would make #### sure I got the facts from the actual source.

    If I was your boss and I found out this was your method, your employment would fall into question.
     
  2. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Guess that is why you aren't the boss, did you read his entire post? He said he is meeting with his local MCSAP officers to go over it all.
     
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    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    Oops, missed that part.
     
  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Hows your foot taste,
     
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    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Look at any law book, they are full of legal mumbo. The entire FNCSA rules and regulations can be found at www.fmcsa.dot.gov
     
  6. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    The regs are based on the manufacturer's declared GVWR not the registered or actual weight. The single and combination GVWR is what is used for determining the CDL, i.e. 11,000 pound GVWR dually + 18,000 ound GVWR trailer = 29,000 pounds CGVWR mandating a CDL. A truck with a GVWR or 27,000 mandates a CDL.

    Log books, medical certs, Daily Vehicle Inspection Reports, Period inspection, maintenance file for vehicle per 396.3 and driver qualification file per 391.51 all kick in at 10,001 pounds.

    Yes see above.

    I would call the local FMCSA office, while some inspectors know the roadside inspection requirements they do dnot know the particulars of things such as D & A testing (if you haven't done so your drivers that operate vehicles that require a CDL must be tested as required. Non-CDL required drivers cannot be in the pool with drivers that are required to have a CDL), driver qualification files, insurance, and maintenance files.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/about/contact/offices/displayfieldroster.asp


    It's not mumbo jumbo, its facts straight from the FMCSR. Mumbo jumbo is truck stop lawyer information. :biggrin_25523:

    Be safe.
     
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    wulfman75 Road Train Member

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    You can always have them get laptops and run the DDL software instead of trying to teach them logbooks. :)
     
  8. feduptrucker

    feduptrucker Bobtail Member

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    I don't think logbooks is hard. Then again I have only been driving 5 years. Toughest thing that I do not understand, and really don't even care to is split sleeper berth. I tried that once and almost got a ticket, for some reason though the OHP let me go on it with a warning. I think it's fairly simple. 11-14-10. Sometimes I get screwed up adding up the hours but that's only when I am not paying much attention to what I am adding and don't use a calculator. Yeah, im a goob sometimes at math.
     
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    Thank you for the info. On a routine basis I have started transporting vehicles for the local Ford Dealer. They have an F350 dually and a hitch pull trailer for transporting up to the F350 Super duty pickup in the Western States.