Roehl Driver Check In

That's why I'm smart, and you're...well refer to the other thread

 

you didn't specify the binders. a 6600-pound chain is only 5400 pounds when secured with a 5400-pound binder. my ratchet binders are good for 9200 pounds.

if you have only two chains then you still have a perfectly safe and legal load, so long as the coil is homicide and the chains are crossed inside the coil. assuming ratchet binders:

your chains: 2 x 6600 = 13200

your straps: 5 x 5400 = 27000

your coil racks: 3 x 10000 = 30000

your chains and straps have an aggragate WLL of 40200 pounds. since they only have to secure half the load, your tiedowns are legal for an 80,400-pound coil.

supposedly a metal coil rack is good for each 10000 pounds of coil. if this is true, you are illegal because of the coil racks. but i've never seen a mark on the coil racks and i don't know whether 10000 pounds is true or not.

if you are illegal, you are illegal, and you can be ticketed for an undersecured load, no matter whether you took it as a relay or not.

i regularly balk at bad relays and have to redistribute them. most recently we almost had to hire a crane at gary to move two suicide coils on a relay that were causing me to be front heavy, but we were able to move some plate steel and equalize the weight instead.

 

I am pretty sure the 10k limit on the racks is just a Roehl thing, I have never seen a rating on a rack nor do I see them for new ones online, plus all the FMCSA website says is you have to use something besides nails to hold your timber but doesn't have any WLL or any other specs on the minimum amount of racks needed like they do for other securement devices.

 

roehl makes up stuff that is not legally required and is sometimes not as safe as the non-roehl way.

i have to train students in safe and legal load securement, and sometimes that means un-teaching them the roehl way.

generally, roehl reccomendations are good, but not always.

 

Agreed. I do agree with the 10k per bunk rule they have though as long as I have enough to do it their way lol

 

we're in violation all the time for carrying slinkies and telecommunication spools without coil racks and dunnage under every piece. legally those are both metal coils now.

so for a saukville load of 11 slinkies, you need 22 coil racks, 22 pieces of wood, and 22 straps to be FMSCA legal.

i've never been questioned about it, but that's the law.

 

If the chain is fully around one trailer attachment point, the rating is 5500 lbs. If it is around two (cylindrical points or rectangular stake pockets have the same value), then the rating is 7000 lbs.



Every coil I've picked up as a relay from Gary has the chain around only one point. I usually add two more chains and let my FM know so I can get paid for retarping the load.

I also had a face-to-face meeting with Adam B. in Marshfield about this very issue last week. He said he'd look into it.

 

Unloaded the fire truck this morning at the port in Aberdeen, WA, along with three other Roehl drivers and their fire trucks. Picked up a load of hardwood lumber in Longview, WA this afternoon, bound for Rapid City, SD.

Now at a t/s near Olympia, WA. Back over the mountains tomorrow; deliver Thursday morning.

 

When did this change?

 

It depends on where you look in the regs, in definitions it says slinkies and spools are metal coil, in securement it says only sheet metal is considered metal coil, an arguement can be made for either side, and of course a ticket written depending on your personal interpretation of the law. With that said shotgun slinkies are legal as far as I can see on a 48' trailer using 12 - 8' timbers, 12 bunks and 22 straps.