Should I be worried about learning to back-up?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by mwehrle, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Muddydog79

    Muddydog79 Heavy Load Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2016
    Messages:
    820
    Thanks Received:
    2,147
    0
    I wouldnt stress about it. Only time ive seen pups being backed up is when the wrecker is pulling them out of the median.:D
     
    BillStep Thanks this.
  2. LGarrison

    LGarrison Road Train Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Messages:
    1,246
    Thanks Received:
    996
    Location:
    Sandpoint Idaho
    0
    You answered your own question correctly
     
  3. firemedic2816

    firemedic2816 Road Train Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2016
    Messages:
    1,076
    Thanks Received:
    1,483
    Location:
    Walton Kentucky
    0
    Are you pulling Pups or full box? Best thing to do, to understand how the tractor maneuvers the trailer is get a toy semi, set up some mini cones on the table and push on the cab, move it left and right to see how it affects the movement of the trailer. If you haven't gone through class yet, they will try to confuse you, you have to turn your wheel left to go right, or turn the wheel right to go left.....WHAT? etc. The best way to get that down, put your hand on the BOTTOM of the steering wheel and move your hand the direction you want the trailer to go. Also on a full van, when you input your movement into the steering wheel it takes 8' of trailer movement before it gets to the ### end of your trailer. PRACTICE G.O.A.L PRACTICE. G.O.A.L. AND G.O.A.L. or Get Out And Look
     
    x1Heavy Thanks this.
  4. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,373
    Thanks Received:
    4,971
    Location:
    Thunder Bay On
    0
    Mirrors don’t lie
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    15,157
    Thanks Received:
    33,336
    Location:
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    The thing that concerns me the most is the actual way it is in general with LTL. Most drivers are either going to find their truck and load sitting staged or ready to be backed under. Some LTL drivers have went decade's and never really backed because it is not required of them. Then when finished with run driver pulls into a parking area and shuts down. This is why my advice is simple. Stop worrying about it. At some point if you ever go OTR you will have to re-learn how.
     
  6. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    34,017
    Thanks Received:
    42,135
    Location:
    White County, Arkansas
    0
    Some LTL supporting restaurants you get into some seriously tight places. Cramming a full 18 wheeler into a small lot isnt that easy to do. However they are fairly regular stops on a sort of a route so if you get into and out of a place once chances are you will be back.
     
    WesternPlains Thanks this.
  7. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2017
    Messages:
    6,298
    Thanks Received:
    53,164
    0
    The fun way is to get yourself a radio controlled 18 wheeler.
    I have to admit. Although I'm very good at the backing I've been taught. Learning all the time. I still shy away from those tight spots in the truck stops. I just don't have enough practice in yet.
    I'll sit there in a truck stop. Watching guys maneuver, back, etc. I'm impressed. They're really good, in general.
    I was watching a guy back in one night. Almost hitting a truck on his blind side trailer. He was really close. I went over and asked him how he did it. He started laughing and said: The guy next to me got out and spotted me. I laughed and told him I didn't see the spotter!
     
    x1Heavy and blairandgretchen Thank this.
  8. Fold_Moiler

    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2017
    Messages:
    1,926
    Thanks Received:
    3,528
    0
    You’ll know you’re good at backing once you don’t really think about it and the truck just ends up in the spot.

    A lot of it is in your setup. I can’t tell you the last time I blind side backed. I’ll drive around a building or whatever and come back facing the right way to avoid it. Work smarter not harder.

    I used to have to blind side back a lot at my old job but it’s alot easier in a daycab with a rear window vs a sleeper.
     
    x1Heavy Thanks this.
  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    34,017
    Thanks Received:
    42,135
    Location:
    White County, Arkansas
    0
    We played with a Schneider driver, presenting him with 8 spotters one wet night up in American Eagle in CT, I think Milldale. I'll have to look that one up. Made him work that tractor trailer too in the mud everywhere he looked got a conflicting signal. He finally figured it out in a few minutes and we put him in right quick.

    I have to admit, I am leery of blind side. I usually enjoyed being able to glide in one move to the spot backing up in any place. Not sure I can do that now without maybe 15 minutes alone with it first. There is a certain amount of rust that gets built up if a skill is unused long enough.
     
    WesternPlains Thanks this.
  10. BillStep

    BillStep Light Load Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2016
    Messages:
    195
    Thanks Received:
    238
    0
    Don't worry about backing up. Just worry about hittin something.
     
    homeskillet Thanks this.