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I will say this. History really does repertoire its self doesn't it? By attacking the messenger in an effort to just make him go away has not helped your cause very well has it?
What I have proposed is that "We" simply place billboards in the beds of pickup trucks and ride around our elected officials offices but while you were so busy attacking me because of your fear of change you didn't hear that did you?
Sometimes I wonder if you and types like you are a troll or a small company owner in fear of losing your little company or like in the days of slavery you would tell the others let's all stay in our current system we got it good theyz treating us good let's all stay on the plantation and keep p working for nothing at least weez eating.

Again from where I stand it's leagal and it's the right thing to do as a matter of fact I will not only ride around lawmakers offices I will do another billboard and address drivers pay and how we are getting bent over like a two dollar prostitute and ride around truck stops just as soon as my windfall comes in.
If you're nervous now you ain't seen nothin yet as a matter of fact you may wanna prepare for a strike by the time I get done stirring the pot.
I'm not like you too embarrassed to say anything too afraid to stand up and demand better pay and a fair working environment.
You sir are whats wrong with this industry and you should be ashamed to even post on this site.
Hopefully many of you will post the same message inn the bed of your pickup trucks and wake up your fellow drivers as I will this summer and by doing so you will get the chance to participate in a historic event to change the industry. For the better unlike some people who would rather sit on their back sides and attack those of us with ideas that are legal and positive for the industry.
Some people would rather just have the rest of us be quiet and just go away.
Here's another plan that will put icing onbtue cake, ride around tv stations with a billboard inn the bed of your pickup truck that says pay by the hour would further reduce accidents and that would focus all eyes on congress to include us in the fair labor laws.
People this is our chance to raise awareness about trucking and the scam of pay by mile I will put up a website dedicated to this cause and the response from the lawmakers and the greedy trucking company owners as they will surely dislike my message.
It's time for us as a group to shame these public officials into doing the right thing we elected then to work for us not to work JUST for corporate America.
Dude if you are afraid or too embarrassed then go back to listening to your rightwing talk shows I won't forget you nor will I hate you for being misled by corporate radio.
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OK then!!!!

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If you guys want to bicker over political issues, take it to the Politics Forum, please. Password is: thickskin
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I tried that I didn't know that part of the site works. It looks desolate. I'll go there this e log issue does dovetail with politics but I understand.
Sorry if I went off base but I was pushed a couple of times and so I just defended myself is all.

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Boy can you day DERAILED TOPIC?

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Boy can you day DERAILED TOPIC?
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Ill pretend I didnt hear that.

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AfroBat said: ↑

I will say this. History really does repertoire its self doesn't it? By attacking the messenger in an effort to just make him go away has not helped your cause very well has it?
What I have proposed is that "We" simply place billboards in the beds of pickup trucks and ride around our elected officials offices but while you were so busy attacking me because of your fear of change you didn't hear that did you?
Sometimes I wonder if you and types like you are a troll or a small company owner in fear of losing your little company or like in the days of slavery you would tell the others let's all stay in our current system we got it good theyz treating us good let's all stay on the plantation and keep p working for nothing at least weez eating.

Again from where I stand it's leagal and it's the right thing to do as a matter of fact I will not only ride around lawmakers offices I will do another billboard and address drivers pay and how we are getting bent over like a two dollar prostitute and ride around truck stops just as soon as my windfall comes in.
If you're nervous now you ain't seen nothin yet as a matter of fact you may wanna prepare for a strike by the time I get done stirring the pot.
I'm not like you too embarrassed to say anything too afraid to stand up and demand better pay and a fair working environment.
You sir are whats wrong with this industry and you should be ashamed to even post on this site.
Hopefully many of you will post the same message inn the bed of your pickup trucks and wake up your fellow drivers as I will this summer and by doing so you will get the chance to participate in a historic event to change the industry. For the better unlike some people who would rather sit on their back sides and attack those of us with ideas that are legal and positive for the industry.
Some people would rather just have the rest of us be quiet and just go away.
Here's another plan that will put icing onbtue cake, ride around tv stations with a billboard inn the bed of your pickup truck that says pay by the hour would further reduce accidents and that would focus all eyes on congress to include us in the fair labor laws.
People this is our chance to raise awareness about trucking and the scam of pay by mile I will put up a website dedicated to this cause and the response from the lawmakers and the greedy trucking company owners as they will surely dislike my message.
It's time for us as a group to shame these public officials into doing the right thing we elected then to work for us not to work JUST for corporate America.
Dude if you are afraid or too embarrassed then go back to listening to your rightwing talk shows I won't forget you nor will I hate you for being misled by corporate radio.
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I Dont want paid by the HOUR!!!!
Thats part of the problem one does not fit all just as HOS one does NOT all.
And even if it was by the hour the HOS regulates you to so many a week why would I want that I worked 100+ in other industries and made bank.

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I Dont want paid by the HOUR!!!!
Thats part of the problem one does not fit all just as HOS one does NOT all.
And even if it was by the hour the HOS regulates you to so many a week why would I want that I worked 100+ in other industries and made bank.
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Exactly what I tried to explain to him, what are issues to him are NOT issues to other people, that's why I told him to change his situation, but he thinks I'm picking on him?

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Exactly what I tried to explain to him, what are issues to him are NOT issues to other people, that's why I told him to change his situation, but he thinks I'm picking on him?
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He doesn't realize it, but I was trying to help him understand he has options, he is the owner of his destiny.

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Right I will say I think driver pay as a whole is a joke but dont make me work hourly since we are regulated to the hrs available because working hourly I will want to work everything I can just like many of the construction jobs I have had 140 in a week there oh and then got in my car and drove the 700 miles home.
As it is I am good on percentage pay.
The reason most companies pay cpm is loads are based off per mile and cost is based on per mile hourly rate dont work so well outside local jobs because one time the trip may take 6hrs and the next it may take 10 due to a wreak or weather and people tend to milk the clock when paid by the hour so you want to fight. Fight for better cpm for you company drivers. Higher cpm for you all tends to help me.

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I work for hourly and make good money. I'm also less stressed because I know I'm being paid for every minute. Loading,unloading, fueling, paperwork, waiting etc. I pull tankers regionally Otr. Home weekends.
I'd never work for cpm again. It's a scam. I do a lot more then just drive. I want paid for that. 20-30 hours a week are spent on line 4 (if you log it legally). I don't know about you but I don't work for free.

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I work for hourly and make good money. I'm also less stressed because I know I'm being paid for every minute. Loading,unloading, fueling, paperwork, waiting etc. I pull tankers regionally Otr. Home weekends.
I'd never work for cpm again. It's a scam. I do a lot more then just drive. I want paid for that. 20-30 hours a week are spent on line 4 (if you log it legally). I don't know about you but I don't work for free.
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Local or atleast semi-local?. At the very least it an out and back?
If not good to see someone found a way to make it work but as stated before with everything else based off cpm its so much easier for most to figure cost and pay based on that.

And am being paid for all I do just its the same if I take 10hrs to go somewhere or 6 I am paid to stop pickup load tarp it if needed and get it to destination period

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