Taking on Goliath---My Fight With TQL

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  1. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    Thanks for your post. To answer your question, No, there was no BOL. There usually isn't one for simple trailer moves. Instead, I have a trailer inspection diagram and use that as a BOL and as a POD, along with pickup and delivery pictures. The only time I have had actual BOLs for loadouts is if I'm delivering a trailer from a dealer or manufacturer to their client.

    As for TONU, well it really was up to them whether they wanted to accept it or not. They chose not to. They have a department that approves special accessorial charges. Also, they could have easily had the shipper not release the trailer. It's that simple. The just wanted to play hardball. Why pay one guy $825 and not pay me $500? Especially since I had done about 7 jobs for them this tour and have NEVER had an issue with them in the 2+ years I've been a carrier? I suspect the shipper wanted this to go to Fontana, but TQL posted Vegas as a bait and switch tactic. I could be wrong. But we'll see. Another thing, who the hell in their right mind would believe that TQL paid someone $825 to move a trailer 215 miles? Yeah, I got some premium land in Antarctica that I want to sell you.

    I spoke to at least 3 managers and pleaded with them not to make me do something I didn't want to do. I stressed to them that I didn't want to make them look bad in front of their clients. They didn't care. I was bouncing phone calls and emails with them for almost two weeks. Enough is enough.
     
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  3. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    He might have assumed some things wrong per law, doing things morally right.
    Irregardless. I do believe that his message serves well the owner operators community no matter what the final outcome is. There are too many glorified stories you hear from people say about taking a load hostage or taking it to a nearby werehouse, taking it back to a shipper or landfill without authorization. Some assumptions and myths should be dispelled.
     
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  4. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Pretty obvious that not everyone does
     
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  5. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    I would be surprised if they were able to even find that phone call, because it doesn't benefit them. And me personally, I wouldn't give them the chance to make it right, I would file against their bond.
     
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  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    First I still stand my advice, but read the last line of my post, the second part is very important.

    I want you to explain to others how the law is on your side and why but only after this is resolved, you are not doing yourself anything favors by posting anything about it.
     
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  7. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    I had some history with TQL too and am 100% convinced they were deceiving you from the beginning.
    I wish you well and hope the outcome will be positive for you.
     
  8. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    I understand. You feel that I should be non-confrontational, and I think it is a valid point. You feel I shouldn't air out dirty laundry in public. I think in most cases you are right. "Let your adversary save face". But man, look at my opponent. They do stuff like this EVERY DAY to poor people just trying to get by. Don't you think they deserve a punch in the mouth? I understand that I'm putting myself out there. I believe that "a kind word and a baseball bat sometimes has a better effect than just a kind word." And I DID try with just kind words.

    Maybe I'm just cranky lately. On top of this, as of yesterday, my phone is not recognizing my PIN, so now I'm locked out. I might have to do a factory reset. NO BUENO. It's my business phone. Add to that we might be a Venezuela/Cuba 2.0 come November, and I'm really concerned. Remember, my parents are from Cuba. They came here in 1962. This country has NO IDEA what's coming.
     
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  9. 46/71 Hybrid

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    Hi Gekko,

    Thank you for detailing the situation and having the courage to post up. I understand the complexities involved, and I want to provide some legal insights based on your accounting of what happened BUT they're worth exactly what you paid for them and should not be considered as legal advice (standard disclaimer).

    1. **Contractual Obligations**: You had a contract specifying delivery to Vegas. Once you signed the rate confirmation, the terms were set, and any significant changes to the contract (such as a new destination) would require mutual agreement and a revised ratecon.

    2. **Duty to Notify and Verify**: It appears there was a delay and lack of clear communication from TQL regarding the delivery address. You had every right to request clarification and to hold them accountable for the confusion. If TQL or the shipper failed to provide timely and accurate information, they may be in breach of their obligations to verify and confirm delivery details. This is somewhat of a gray area, although minor, and they may claim that you violated the duty to verify, However, since they refused to send written evidence of an address change until AFTER you picked up the trailer, and knowing that you still intended to pick up the trailer, should show they didn't perform their due diligence in completing their duty to notify.

    3. **Reasonable Charges for Changes**: You proposed reasonable compensation for the additional work required if the delivery address changed. Their refusal to pay you for the additional costs or for a truck order not used (TONU) underlines the importance of having a clear protocol for handling such situations. <-This is on them, not you and legally speaking, the charges that you proposed must be reasonable, which they were.

    4. **Legal and Financial Recourse**:
    - **TONU and Contractual Enforcement**: You were within your rights to charge a TONU fee due to their failure to adhere to the contract terms and the delays caused.
    - **Payment Discrepancies**: Withholding payment on one load to resolve a claim on another load is indeed problematic and potentially illegal. Brokers, as you already know, must honor payment terms as agreed upon for each load independently.

    5. **Resolution Steps**: Since you have strong documentation and evidence showing you fulfilled your contractual obligations, you’re in a good position to assert your rights. Continue to use this documentation to support your case and I suspect they'll fold once their legal team reviews the facts and documentation (especially written).
     
  10. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    Thank you for your advice. It is gold. That is one of the great things about this forum. I've learned so much from the guys here, so I try to contribute whenever I can.

    As for the load, they told me about the delivery change before I got to the shipper, but after the ratecon was signed.
     
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  11. Constant Learner

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    He is a PO guy, doesn't have a trailer. It was an empty trailer move, he could use it for a week, and TQL made him pay $825 for that. It could be worse.
     
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