Talk me out of it

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by pismelled, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. lowjo

    lowjo Light Load Member

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    it could work out with yy. they are a small enough co. to help you,there are other o/o there that you already have met,ask them to help you.. im sure they know where you coming from. what are their trucks bringing in?
    starting flatbed while it is slow can pay off greatly,when it picks up you may have 'your way' meaning you have more of your technique down and can move a little faster.
    good luck. i would like to know how things progress.
    ...all joking aside.. the name of the school is rather amusing..
    take care man.
     
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  3. pismelled

    pismelled Bobtail Member

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    I've been turned down by May, Werner and Swift due to the fact that I've been a stay-at-home dad for the last 8 years. I'm out of Vancouver, Washington, so Gordon and US West won't even consider my application.

    Any suggestions on who to try next? Suggestions on how to generate a verifiable work history?
     
  4. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Should be a few smaller outfits in your area , lumber haulers and such
     
  5. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    Some people need to learn the hard way.

    You'll make less then a company driver as a new O/O
     
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  6. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    If you don't have a verifiable work history then you can't "generate one". If you have tax returns showing that you weren't working or whatever your source of income was from it might be a little easier getting hired with a decent company.
     
  7. Bazerk Wizz Bang!

    Bazerk Wizz Bang! Medium Load Member

    8 years without a job. You were a stay at home dad, like a lot of women are stay at home moms. A lot of stay at home moms later return to the workforce, I am not sure how they get a job but I think women would give a lot better insight than anybody.

    As far as the anger goes, there is a lot of it. But its not really at you, even though it kind of looks like its aimed at you. A lot of people get scammed by really big companys who are more con artist than legit companys, like what was said earlier about a pyramid scheme. The anger is about the companys who do this, and even bright, self reliant, hardworking folks get conned into there little traps. They are very very good at telling you everything you want to hear in the most believable fasion, its very hard to see threw it. Even for a lot of fairly smart people. The people that sell you on it are very good con men and women, probably just about the best money can buy since a lot of big muli-billion dollar a year companys rely almost solely on these con men and women recruiters/instructors for the majority of there income. It can be very frustrating for people to try to tell you what they know is a fact when they have the best of the best of con men and women telling you all this stuff at the other end. And some anger is from knowing that each one of us posting is way outmatched when it comes to these rip off artist. Very very frustrating, but its not at you, maby a tad bit but not that much of it at least.

     
  8. rodknocker

    rodknocker Road Train Member

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    You just need to get someone to tell your "employer to be" that you've been working for his company for years. Lots of people do it. Employers just need to clarify this for the insurance company then they will move on to the next person. Give an owner op $100 up front then $100 after you get the job. Ask him to tell them you've been driving his lumber truck fo 37 months. May as well start out at top pay
     
  9. wc5b

    wc5b Medium Load Member

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    4-8 is accurate. yes.

    9 On the other hand proves that 2 is also correct due to the fact that if you did know about the industry, you would also know that O/O's percentage wise make LESS take home pay then company drivers. Being an O/O is about independence, and not of the wallet.
     
  10. wc5b

    wc5b Medium Load Member

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    I would remind them that stay at home parenting has been accepted by the IRS and society as a whole as being a legit job and to say anything less is discrimination, but that's just me. Also, don't leave anything blank if it says 5yrs back. What they really want is contacts and references, so put down what you did prior to those 8 yrs in detail. Give them someone to call.
     
  11. slowpoke69

    slowpoke69 Bobtail Member

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    Take your newly acquired cdl(hopefully w/ hazmat), and get a job with a foodservice co., but only if you're under 40, very physical work. In addition to getting much needed experience(in all sizes of trailers), you'll get practice getting that equipment into places most drivers wouldn't even THINK of trying to put a trailer. I've been with my co. for 11 yrs., tired of it now, but it is like training on the firing line, you'll hit spots where you think there NO WAY you'll get in that hole that is back around a couple of turns in an alley for example. Plus, while you're learning you'll have the bennies your wife and kids need, and be home most nights. Once you do a year or so in a place like that, you'll be able to get most any job you want, provided you still have a good record, the downside is you have exponentially more exposure to accidents/incidents due to running in a more populated area. By the time that year or so is up, you'll have all the confidence and experience to go drive a bigger truck. I run everything from pups to 53' reefers, with the occasional straight truck thrown in just to remind me which way to turn the wheel! HAHA! It never fails, everytime I get in a straight truck I turn the wheel the wrong dang way one time a day when backing up,DOH!:biggrin_2559: I'm not trying to offend anyone, but if you're not in shape don't go the foodservice rt., we've had many OTR drivers who thought they wanted to get off the road quit in 2 weeks or less, it's that hard on you. I work 4/10's and lots of our guys made close to 70k this yr. I was fired for 5 months and still have pulled down 40k so far. Like I said though, it IS brutal, I weighed 250 at the start of summer, 235 by the end! Heck of a diet plan though. I won't call you an idiot, we wouldn't be out there if we weren't ALL a bit off, you really should get some driving experience 1st. Just my 2cents bro, good luck, and stay safe!
     
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