Teaming Logging

we have been showing a post and pre trip every shift change, I guess the big question was the dvir that needs sent. Does it need sent at the end of every shift or once per day.

 

Before you hand the keys over to another driver, you should post trip the truck & complete the DVIR....because they need to review the DVIR you filled out as part of their own pretrip.

 

Since this is in the new drive section; I'm going to a ask a question since I may team drive with my wife.

Is this question being asked because a space issue (box) to log this on the paper work? Or is it a time saving issue?

Before I read this posting, I was thinking 'over-inspecting' (both people inspecting everything) was a good thing, or is there a rule against that? Some have that on their DAC "over inspects rig".

I also understand someone mentioned they did their own inspecting because their co-team was a boob, how can a person sleep knowing the person driving could not tell an unsafe truck?

 

Well it was asked because common sense dictates if I'm doing a pretrip that covers more than the post anyways, what is the real point in it, ill be checking it myself. Also, we do elogging so its different than how I learned paper.

 

Actually, the post trip should be more thorough. If there is a problem with my truck, I'd like to discover that problem at the end of the day when I have time to fix it....NOT when I need to be rolling out in the morning. A problem found during your pretrip causes you to be late.

E-logs vs. paper has no effect on your inspections...you've still got to do them. It should still be logged the same way, too...the length of time it takes you to do the inspections should be accurately reflected on line 4.

 

It has nothing to do with time, (in a sense) it is a SAFETY and DRIVER RESPONSIBILITY issue. The poster asking it, was thinking time saving on his/her 70, Safety and the "greedy owner/carrier" have opposing view points regarding even 15 minutes used on available hours!

One instance of "over inspecting" comes to mind. I read an OSHA law suit that UPS terminated a driver for "over inspecting", their (UPS) claim was the driver was wasting precious time (on a dedicated, time sensitive run) by being egregiously excessive in his pre tripping and costing the company time and $$$ and effecting the driver and the schedule of the next leg with his "over concern" for safety and legal minimums of the equipment. The "minimum" standards applied by UPS is what cost them the case...with UPS openly stating in court, that all that is required is the minimum according to FMCSA, that the driver was more concerned for his safety and equipment maintenance than concerned for the company or the customer. The driver got his job back and back pay with penalty fine included, along with the company getting a good penalty from OSHA.

Why did I include this case in this discussion? Simple, even though the companies/owners, care more about the bottom line profit, than they care about the drivers, the drivers are the (to put it bluntly) "only responsible party" when it comes to checking and double checking the integrity and safe operation of any rig!

 

Im teaming, so my end of the day is her beginning, makes no difference if I find it on my post as its her pre, and visa versa

 

RIGHT!

Two separate logs, one for each driver!


Don't let her try and pre-trip before you stop though....that first step could be tricky!