The Driver Shortage is a huge lie.

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  3. 2 CHAINS

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    Bingo. These workers drive down rates companies that hire them pull cheap freight which drives down rate per mile. Who benefits the H2B worker and big corporation who love cheap labor aka economic slaves
     
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    I am still (more now after reading everything) convinced that there isn't any driver shortage in the US, if mega companies can afford to pay .28 cents to drivers, is because they can find enough people to pay such third world prices, and if brokers can afford to offer loads at $1.50 out of Texas, is because they find enough people to haul them at such price, otherwise they couldn't do it. That's a terrible fact but it's a fact. That's reality in 2018 US.
    Now, I do know for a fact that some O/O are doing great, I do know some of them, driving skate boards and refrigerated in teams, the big problem remain the vans, where the megas are the biggest factor b'cause most of them owns dry vans in the thousands. Don't see any solution at the moment to get better except selling my van and going with a skate board, (don't haul refrigerated for no money in this world).
     
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  5. Scooter Jones

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    I can understand if a dry van o/o does 1.50 one way and 3.50 back, that gives him a 2.50 a mile average. Not getting rich per se, but you can make a decent living with that average as long as you're not paying huge tolls, repair costs, etc.

    But these guys who are running their trucks for themselves or a carrier, assuming all liability, etc, for 1.50 a mile average are just plain ole idiots who aren't doing anyone (including themselves) any favors.
     
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    To be honest with you, I haven't found so far in the US, any van load paying $3.50 a mile anywhere, (been driving with my own authority for 17 years) I have heard of people getting such prices after a hurricane hauling water in a hurry for Fema or doing a short load less than 250 miles but that's it, not normally load of 500 miles of more, get this price, at least not in the loadboards, and I doubt very strongly that if they exist, and anybody knows of such loads, its gonna comment about it for being afraid to lose it. It maybe that the Gov. can afford to pay such prices, but just to a select few companies not worth mentioning working for them for a long time. But will be very very glad, to hear from you where can I get a $3.50 van load for tomorrow or next Monday. Let me know please.
     
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    I am gonna make it more easier for you or anybody else offering me such a load, I am gonna make you an offer you can't refuse (maffia style), I will buy a bottle of Glenlivet Archive 21 years old ($300.00+) (or another one of your election of similar price) to you or anyone else offering me such loads that I can do for a while, just pm me and we go from there, deal?
     
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    There out there . My company has a med account pays 4mi . Sometimes they post on board but at lane rate 2 2.25. Im leased on they give me 2.80 plus 350 stop only if it delivers different day not sameday
     
  9. Scooter Jones

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    Well, I'm not a shipper or a broker. So, I can't help you on that.

    In addition, my 1.50/3.50 scenario can be used in any combination. Don't focus too much on the 3.50 side of what I said too much.

    My point is to say $2.50 a mile average is definitely obtainable.
     
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    Really man? They were out there by the plenty especially first and second quarter this year. I hauled a bunch of them off the loadboards. They are infrequent now, I have a $3.38 load tomorrow out of WI to GA. (829 miles). For reference most brokers were reluctant to pay the $2.67 market rate. It tooke me a few hours of back and forth to negotiate that though.
     
  11. Scooter Jones

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    Everyone was (or at least should of been) racking up dough this last year and hopefully stacking up the cashola.

    I was running LOTS of loads this summer that paid me over $5.00 a mile on 350 plus miles...

    I knew it wouldn't last, commonsense says everything is cyclical. That said, I REFUSE to do anything that won't gross me over $2.50 in any given week. How some of these guys are running for $1.50 a mile or less is beyond me. HOW IN THE HECK can they do that without going broke or at a minimum breaking even?
     
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