This is *WHY* one must not "Blend" Amateur Radio with "CB"

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Gadfly, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. jessejamesdallas

    jessejamesdallas Road Train Member

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    Not true...A 100w Amp can bleed like a stuck pig onto other channels, and mess with TV Sets, and computers and intercoms. It just depends on the Amp. Most of the Home Made Type Amps that are built with CB use in mind have little if any filtering. They are built for one reason, To make the user loud as hell...

    Almost every "Bust" you see on the FCC web site will always be a Base Station. "Why?" Because a Base station can't move around for one, and second usually these guys will be in a neighborhood where houses are on small lots, so when they start talking on a CB that is hooked up to a Amp that has little filtering in it, it plays hell on near by TV's. But this was before the switch to Digital went into effect to.

    The Export radios that have the built-n Amps may bleed onto other bands, and mess with TV's, but again it's not the Radio doing it, but the Harmonics from the Amp part that's the problem...

    When the FCC guys come and track these guys down, and write up a report, the reports are always the same..."Guy running excessive Power on 11 Meter"...That does not mean he has a modified Export Radio operating on 11 Meter...Just that he is running more power than he should.
     
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  3. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    To prevent 10 meter interferance you would have to have a 11 meter bandpass filter I have one but few CBres would Localy I have never heard a CBer bleed over on to 10 with a 100 watt amp even one very close to me.

    By a basestation you meen FIXED but most " BASE STATIONS " are mobile radios on a power supply. How many run legal cb radios on this forum ?
     
  4. Big_m

    Big_m Heavy Load Member

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    As long as it's a fixed location station with a Base antenna. It is a Base Station.
     
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  5. jessejamesdallas

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    To be honest...I have never herd of any CB bleeding over on to 10 meter band either...Just Tv's, computers, intercoms, speakers, and cordless phones. But then again, I don't know hardly anyone that actually talks on the 10 Meter Band to ask them...The only channel outside of the 40 channels on 11 meter I have ever been on is 26.915...And right now the radio I have in my Suburban is just a Cobra 29, so I can't e even go there...(least not in the Burb...The Van is a different story!)

    All it takes is a small Amp which has little if any filtering, and a radio. And you will bleed channels.

    And, since the more watts you run threw some of these amps, the worse they bleed, anything is possible...

    I know some of the amps I run bleed like a stuck pig at a Redneck Tail Gate party. I can key-up on channel 28 here in Dallas, and bleed over to channel 26 in Iowa when DX is rolling...

    Fixed mobiles on a power supply or a regular Base radio, it don't mater...Neither is moving around down the road...

    By the way...For what it's worth...In my Suburban that will put a 5000w Bird slug in the corner, has a Stock Cobra 29 Black Chrome in it...Nothing special about the radio...
     
  6. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    We agree there are amps that can cause problems however since I have been on 10 meters for DECADES and only a few times heard a local CBer and both of them were very close you can bet the people who get caught were not on only the 40 cb chs. UNLESS your making a square wave generator out of your amp few will generate enough trash so they were tring to get caught ..... maybe not knownly.

    If you run 100,000 watts 0n CB CLEANLY it is not my problem as long as you keep your signal on the CB band that the FCC's problem.

    I run bandpass filters on any amp I run here and low pass filters on everything under 6 meters ( http://www.iceradioproducts.com/ )
    Photo shows ICE 2 meter filter and a lowpass filter for the IC-706 .


    I also have a bird #43 my largest slug is 1,000 watts ......

    Anyone stupid enough to put out enough trash to get people to call the FCC gets his just citation .....:biggrin_25514:
     

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  7. delta5

    delta5 Road Train Member

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    Oopsy! Radioactive got caught selling those "legal" export radios LOL

    Federal Communications Commission

    Washington, D.C. 20554

    In the Matter of )

    ) File No.: EB-06-PO-169

    Michael T. Kersnowski )

    d/b/a RadioActive Radio ) Citation No.: C20073292003

    )

    Salem, Oregon 97302 )

    )

    CITATION

    Released: February 23, 2007

    By the Resident Agent, Portland Resident Agent Office, Western Region,
    Enforcement Bureau:

    1. This is an Official Citation issued pursuant to Section 503(b)(5) of
    the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"), to Michael T.
    Kersnowski d/b/a RadioActive Radio for violation of Section 302(b) of
    the Act, and Sections 2.803(a)(1), 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the
    Commission's Rules ("Rules").

    2. Investigation by the Commission's Portland Resident Agent Office of
    the Enforcement Bureau revealed that on November 28, 2006, RadioActive
    Radio, through the use of internet website www.RadioActiveRadios.com,
    offered for sale forty-four non-certified Citizens Band ("CB")
    transceivers as follows:


    Brand Model

    Connex 3300 HP

    Connex 4600 Turbo

    Connex 4300 HP 300

    Connex 4300 HP

    Connex General Washington

    Connex General Lee

    Connex 4800HPE

    Connex Deer Hunter

    Galaxy 2517

    Galaxy 2547

    Galaxy 99V

    Galaxy 88HL

    Galaxy 77

    Galaxy 66V

    Galaxy 55

    Galaxy 33HML

    Galaxy 45MP

    Galaxy 48T

    Galaxy 93T

    Galaxy 95T

    General General Jackson

    Magnum S6

    Magnum S9

    Magnum S3RF

    Magnum Delta Force

    Magnum Omega Force

    Magnum Mini

    Mirage 6600

    Mirage 88H/L

    Mirage 9900

    RCI 2980WX

    RCI 2985DX

    RCI 2995DX

    RCI 2985DX

    RCI 2950

    RCI 2970

    RCI 6300F25

    RCI 6300F150

    RCI Voyage VR-9000

    Super Star 36

    Super Star 3900

    Super Star 3900GHPM

    Super Star 3900GHPA

    Stryker 440


    According to Commission records these devices have not received an FCC
    equipment authorization, which is required for CB transmitters marketed in
    the United States.

    3. RadioActive Radio, through the use of internet website
    www.RadioActiveRadios.com, also offered for sale ten non-certified
    External Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers as follows:


    Brand Model

    Palomar 225

    Palomar 250

    Palomar Delux Modulator

    Palomar 450

    Palomar 600

    Palomar 900V

    Davemade M80

    Davemade M200

    Davemade M400

    Davemade Straight 8


    4. Section 302(b) of the Act provides: "No person shall manufacture,
    import, sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home electronic
    equipment and systems, or use devices, which fail to comply with
    regulations promulgated pursuant to this section." Section 2.803(a)(1)
    of the Rules provides that "...no person shall sell or lease, or offer
    for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or
    import, ship or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or
    offering for sale or lease, any radio frequency device unless: (1) In
    the case of a device subject to certification, such device has been
    authorized by the Commission in accordance with the rules in this
    chapter and is properly identified and labeled..." RadioActive Radio's
    offering for sale of the transceivers listed in paragraph 2 violates
    both sections.

    5. Additionally, dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue here
    may not be certificated under the Rules.

    6. Section 2.815(c) of the Rules prohibits the manufacture, sale, or
    offering for sale of any External Radio Frequency Power Amplifier (or
    amplifier kits) capable of operation on any frequency below 144 MHz
    unless the amplifier has received a grant of type acceptance.
    Furthermore, Section 2.815(b) of the Rules prohibits the sale or
    marketing of External Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier
    kits) capable of operating on any frequency between 24 and 35 MHz.
    RadioActive Radio's offering for sale of the non-certified External
    Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers listed in paragraph 3 violates both
    sections of the Rules and Section 302(b) of the Act.

    7. Violations of the Act or the Rules may subject the violator to
    substantial monetary forfeitures, seizure of equipment through in rem
    forfeiture action, and criminal sanctions, including imprisonment.

    8. Michael T. Kersnowski d/b/a RadioActive Radio may request an interview
    at the closest FCC Office, which is Federal Communications Commission,
    11410 N.E. 122^nd Way, Suite 312, Kirkland, Washington 98034. You may
    contact this office by telephone, XXX XXX-XXXX, to schedule this
    interview, which must take place within 14 days of this Citation.
    Michael T. Kersnowski d/b/a RadioActive Radio may also submit a
    written statement to the above address within 14 days of the date of
    this Citation. Any written statements should specify what actions have
    been taken to correct the violations outlined above. Please reference
    file number EB-06-PO-169 when corresponding with the Commission.

    9. Any statement or information provided by you may be used by the
    Commission to determine if further enforcement action is required. Any
    knowingly or willfully false statement made in reply to this Citation
    is punishable by fine or imprisonment.

    10. IT IS ORDERED that copies of this Citation shall be sent by First
    Class U.S. Mail and Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested to
    Michael T. Kersnowski at his address of record and the address of
    record for RadioActive Radio.

    FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

    Binh Nguyen

    Resident Agent

    Portland Resident Agent Office

    Western Region

    Enforcement Bureau

    47 U.S.C. S 503(b)(5).

    47 U.S.C. S 302a(b).

    47 C.F.R. SS 2.803(a)(1), 2.815(b), 2.815(c).

    Section 95.655(a) of the rules states: "[CB] Transmitters with frequency
    capability for the Amateur Radio Services....will not be certificated."
    See also Amendment of the Part 95, Subpart E, Technical Regulations in the
    Personal Radio Services Rules, 3 FCC Rcd 5032 (198:cool:.

    47 C.F.R. S 2.815(c).

    47 C.F.R. S 2.815(b).

    47 C.F.R. S 1.80(b)(3).

    47 U.S.C. SS 401, 501, 503, 510.

    47 U.S.C. S 503(b)(5).

    See Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. S 552a(e)(3).

    See 18 U.S.C. S 1001 et seq.

    Federal Communications Commission

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    Federal Communications Commission
     
  8. delta5

    delta5 Road Train Member

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    Looks like he got caught selling some of those "mobile cw transmitters" too LOL
     
  9. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    DANG .......

    The FCC did something :biggrin_25521:
     
  10. musicmaker

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    I'm suprised that the general e lee is not on there
     
  11. delta5

    delta5 Road Train Member

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    This citation was issued back in 2007..
     
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