Tracking who uses EOBRs

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BigBadBill, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

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    I have yet to have any notifications sent to me about any such mandate. They DO NOT have a set date at this time as it will be tied up in court for awhile.
     
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    Was slotted to start on 3/15, last friday.

    I haven't found anything more on it.
     
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    The more i think about it,the more i am thinking the E=LOG may not affect me to to badly...I only work 40-50 hours a week as it stands...Sometimes only 30 hours a week...
     
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    You said a mouth full there sister.no one wants to fight they want to lay down an take it. Its been like this for years. its old.The citizen know there herded like sheep,pig ,cow but they stand for it.NO ONE WANT TO STAND the TO THE GOberment.I m native american indian and am ready to take a stand,i have been ready for years. there to much wrong
     
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    Well, it is hard to convince a lot of people to stand up against E-logs, when quite a few are already opting to use them irregardless of a mandate or not. And they opted to do so before the government even came close to suggesting a mandate. Would seem that only a minority of folks are really upset. The majority seem to be already on board with e-logs. Just go thru a truck stop and see the "electronic log" stickers on the sides of trucks. A larger percentage on this forum may be against them, but the users of forums like this don't even make up 1% of the trucking community. Some will be sheep, for sure, but seems more like the government is being like sheep on this one. The government is bringing up the rear. A large percentage of carriers already beat the government to this one.
     
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    Go through the truckstop and tell me HOW many are running "company" trucks and how many are owner ops. The company drivers are like a herd of sheep since they don't really have any other choices other than leave the industry or buy their own trucks. Don't try to lump owner ops with company drivers. There is a huge difference in between.
     
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    Just don't do too much gawking at the e-logs stickers, you run the risk of one of them running over you. I sure don't see any safety benefit, but do see plenty of negatives. There are truckstops and other places which demand caution, and caution goes out the window for some when the box is counting the seconds.

    The thought of my small company going to them with all of the multiple stop loads we do, and who would be running the show, has me lookin at other operations, it sure won't be much fun if they bring it on here. Drivers have come to the company to get away from E-logs, they aren't always a benefit to the driver, either.

    I have shut it down when I'm out of hours, even though what was planned wasn't done. That doesn't happen too often, but it can happen.
     
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    ..and you buy one too! We all should have one. I am a company driver. It would be great if all companies had cameras outside their trucks.
     
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    And when the box is telling you when you can run and when you can't.... it's nonsense, and it's not about safety, it's about control....

    OOIDA is challenging it in court over this "control and harassment" issue. Carrier dispatchers watching the clock and sounding the wake up alarm, and DOT officials monitoring the clock and citing unruly scofflaws who didn't feel like going to their rooms and staying there until their dispatchers, and/or E-log, told them they could... get up and get going....

    They are never a "benefit" to the driver. They are a benefit to the large carriers, as they, the large carriers, are eyeing automating the log review process and safety compliance, with subsequent labor savings within the office, and to the DOT as they like being able to plug in and look at the hard data recorded on a black box. If you review the comments what you'll note is drivers who have them saying, "I don't see what the big deal is, I always run legal and don't have any objection to being recorded by a device.... I wonder if these same drivers will feel that way when further recording and monitoring, in the name of safety, becomes necessary??? "Driver, we're just gonna put this little dash cam up here on the windshield, what's that?? No, silly, it's not to film the road in front of you, no, we're gonna turn it around and film you... you're not doing anything wrong, right?? You are interested in highway safety, aren't you??

    The law of unintended consequences comes to mind......

    And seriously, what was wrong with the HOS regulations that we had for years prior to the new ones??

    Can anyone point to statistical evidence that demonstrates a significant reduction in highway fatalities and incidents since the implementation of these new HOS rules??

    If it ain't broke don't fix it, but then the bureaucrats wouldn't have nothing to waste money on.....
     
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    The trucking operations/office management side of things love these little devices, just read through the thread and note this sentiment being expressed, "now we have a tool that let's us monitor driver efficiency" , "yeah, we had guys that would drive a couple, stop a couple, drive a couple more, now they have to get in that thing and stay with it...."

    "Hey, what's truck 2257441315467 doing?? His ten hour break is up!!! Send him an urgent, full blast Qcom message, I want that truck rolling!!! We don't have time for all this diver laziness!!!!! And if he doesn't like it he can go elsewhere...we've got to maximize production and cut operating expenses!!!!.... Hey, did you get a chance to see that new auto-log-analyzer 9000 we just got, yet?? Yeah, it's sweet ain't it?? I put that in and was able to downsize the safety department by 78%....."