Tracking who uses EOBRs

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BigBadBill, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    hurry and run and catch the ball

    and to make things interesting, lets chain your leg and tie one hand behind your back

    and if you are doing EXACTLY what we say, lets see you do it while balancing a ball on your nose
     
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  3. Scooter Jones

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    The particular shipper I mentioned doesn't time stamp the BOL when you leave their facility. A preloaded trailer there has a time stamped BOL when the spotted trailer was loaded only. You can't imagine why the DOT might call to verify when the load actually left the facility if he is checking a drivers paper logs?
     
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  4. slowpoker

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    EOBR is not the problem the 14 hour clock is.If a driver wants to take 24 hours to do 600 miles it should be nobody's business.How many times have you awaken in the Morin and felt you needed a power Nap?With the 14 hour rule you stop you lose.
     
  5. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    Plus I'm talking about a load the driver is currently under.
     
  6. 25(2)+2

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    Not everyone can run the same lane or the same hours, and the 14 hour rule assumes you will gravitate to the same time frame each day, helping establish a circadian rhythm, which can't exist as normal for someone who sleeps at odd hours and for odd times and runs a different run or route at different times as a matter of course. That was the justification for that rule and changing the split sleeper rule to what it is now, a change that infuriated some on both sides, safety groups want nothing to interrupt 'adequate rest' and the 8 and 2 split doesn't work for many who need to nap to work around the odd hours.

    'Just in time' has no concept of a rhythm, and experienced drivers doing just in time drive through minor tiredness to make deliveries when told, forgo that, and they sit for far more than 10 hours before they can continue, and probably lose the routes and loads to those who can juggle their sleep times and deliver in a timely manner.
     
  7. trees

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    Yeah, it'd be a lot better if we had the old HOS rules, that 14 hr clock combined with a rigid timekeeper is not kosher.
     
  8. Rocks

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    :biggrin_2559: Awesome!! ...and then, if you can do it 100,000,000,000 times in a row, we will give you a token you can use to buy one of the items in our catalog... :biggrin_25523:
     
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  9. chemsoldier1

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    I only ever do such a thing to prove a point. I do not like being told "well you have X number of hours left, why are you not moving? Its already 0800, why aren't you rolling yet?" Plus, in certain areas of the country, experience shows that dispatch can do some asinine things. For example, I would often end a day in New Jersey or Baltimore and be comfortably parked at a truck stop by 1630-1700ish only to get dispatched on a load that had a pickup appointment at 1900-2000 nearby. When I tried to turn down the load, the answer would be something like "Well your 14 doesn't end until 2100 so you have the hours to go make that pickup." Then my reply would be "Yeah and after I sit at that shipper for 2-3 hours, where the hell am I gonna go to park up here in the Northeast?"

    Bottom line, not all drivers are lazy idiots. Not implying that you feel this way, just that many suits at carriers believe so. Sometimes there is a method to our madness and things are done for a reason.
     
  10. Cowpie1

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    Now this comment exhibits total nonsense. How does one need to "count the seconds" in a truckstop or any other place that a driver is shutting down that is on e-logs? Once the person gets off the road, they can go to off duty, or even off duty driving if they had to, and drive all around a truckstop lot, take all kinds of time parking, and whatever. The box stopped "counting the seconds" the second the driver selected off duty. And that driving around the truckstop lot doesn't take away from the 10 hr break either. This is what I meant by foolish comments being made by folks who haven't a clue what the e-logs are and how to use them. Just more fear of the unknown coming out.
     
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  11. trees

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    Excellent post.
     
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