Tracking who uses EOBRs

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  1. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    As a follow-up, because of my recent experience, I'm now in the habit of pulling off somewhere BEFORE I get to the scale and doing a walk around, including thumping my tires.
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Here's my two cents for what its worth, I think they should alow companies with good csa scores the fall into a minimum threshold to go on about using paper logs if they desire. I have always been one of the ones that said as soon as it becomes law to have one of them things I am done with this industry. But the more I think about it and watch closley at how I am logging now, I don't really see any major impact on my bottom line, depending on the cost of the unit. I still don't want one. I know Mercer is asking for volunteers to run them, and they will pay for the unit if you want to be a ginny pig for them, maybe I should do it, just to get the darn thing for free now instead of having to buy it later.
     
  4. Cowpie1

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  5. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    I ran with an EOBR at my previous employer. My current employer (last 9 mos) has just began to test them. Because of my previous experience with them, I was chosen as one of the 5 drivers to be assigned brand new trucks with the Rand McNally Driver Tech EOBR TND 760.

    I don't mind using it. I prefer paper logs, however, I know that these EOBR's are inevitable. The only thing I don't like about them is that I find myself (at times) racing against the 14 hour clock. When shippers and receivers do not load or unload me in a timely fashion, it agitates me because I'm concerned about my ability to get to a safe and secure parking location, preferably a truck stop or rest area.

    The other day the shipper took almost 4 hours to get me loaded. Even though I still had 2.5 hrs of driving time available and wanted to get in some more miles, there was only 40 minutes left on my 14 and I was limited to just driving 14 miles down the road to a truck stop and shutting down for the night.

    Even still, because my dispatcher does a good job of keeping me rolling, I still average 12,000 miles a month with the EOBR. Plus, I'm home two nights a week with one full day off at that. All things being equal, the EOBR hasn't affected me that much.
     
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  6. MNdriver

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    I have run EOBR as well. I felt I was more dangerous on EOBR than on paper.

    I was constantly on edge worried about that stupid 14 hour clock. I was borderline rude all the time and just generally not nice. Rush rush rush.

    My wife has said going to paper was a day and night difference.

    On the road, I am not an aggressive driver at all anymore. The rush to beat the 14 hour clock is not there. Worrying about am I going to get to the next truck stop in time. Is that stupid klaxon going to go off with that horrid woman bellering your name, "YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF RULES OF SERVICE REGULATION".

    To seeing the qualcomm being manipulated and suddenly having another 2 hours to run suddenly.

    There are logging abilities that you can do on paper that you will no longer be able to do. the ability to block log a metro area being one of them.

    Nothing you do on paper is tossed out on the eobr. You still have to enter comments (form and manner) into the EOBR. same with loading and unloading, inspections, repairs and fueling. NOHTING changes.

    yet demurrage as an issue is ignored.

    I pick up a load and drop it off, I did not pick the product. I was not allowed to COUNT what was put on my truck. I was told it's all there in good order on the faith that what was put on was. The shipper prevents or does not allow the driver to watch or supervise his truck being loaded.

    You get to the other end, now the receiver feels compelled to detain you and hold you hostage until the entire load is broken down, counted and put away. Even though you have never been allowed to count or supervise the loading or unloading, counting or packaging of your load, you are still held accountable for it. Even when some dock monkey gets carried away and damages the product.


    It's all the fault of the driver.
     
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  7. landstar8891

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    Exactly what OOIDA was fighting.The CSA 2010 is in Violation of any and all due process.You are ''guilty'' no matter what and there is no where to even fight it.

    They gave some idiot in a DOT Uniform to accuse you,try you and convict you on the side of a roadway in all of the USA.There is only one way to win,''AVOIDANCE''..

    Run around them,under them and 50 miles out of route if needed..Run the night shift too..This is how i live today.I am very very selective on all i do out there.

    Once NY DOT gave me the warning and it was put against my CSA 2010 Score,was the day i declared war on the DOT.

    This system is geared to take drivers livelihood away.So why gamble and enter a ''broken'' system,willing.Do everything to ''protect'' your CDL and your Job.That is what i do..
     
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  8. dannythetrucker

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    I'm getting back to stepdeck work and hopefully will never see a grocery warehouse or similar environment again, but I was to a few of them in the last couple months. It occurred to me to print out some kind of a form stating driver not responsible for counts, quantities, or condition, load count certified by X....., and if I went to a place which did not allow me on the dock during loading insist they sign it or refuse to load. Does anyone do that ?
     
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  9. MNdriver

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    I just simply write on the bills when I am not allowed to be on the dock. Been doing that for the last year.


    Want to REALLY piss some folks off. Refuse to allow them to copy your drivers license at a cold storage facility or any other place that peddles food. OMG, you'd think the world ended.

    I ask them what security measures they have taken to protect my identity. "none". Can I have a copy of the license of the guy unloading my truck? "no".

    All the chain of custody laws require is them know the name of the motor carrier transporting the product.

    I just LOVE my job at times.
     
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  10. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Funny, you where asking me for one because of that red light ticket or something.
     
  11. landstar8891

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    It just seems that the ''feds'' are forcing there hand on drivers to be ''honest''...:biggrin_2559:
     
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