Up ***t creek w no paddle.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by HurricaneUSA, Jun 28, 2018.

  1. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    My impression of the OP is that he's a pretty articulate, pretty savvy guy.

    It would probably be easier to start a business in trucking where he isn't driving. Home office, do a little brokering, lease on a few trucks..... There's more ways to making money in trucking than driving a truck. Nobody asks about your personal history, no travel needed, no deep background checks
     
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  3. otterinthewater

    otterinthewater Road Train Member

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    Dude. That’s hero material right there you’re made of. Rage quit to going back and humbling yourself...manstyle. Some people might say you shouldn’t do that or this or whatever. A man’s character shows up when the chips are down and he has to dig deep. Many of us have been there, and I like to think we’re better for it.

    Hey OP. Stand the #### up. Talk to the fam, don’t give up, you can do this...get work and move forward. You can.
     
  4. rank

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    You must be a Brit everyone knows WWII didn’t start until 1941*
     
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  5. Felntrucker

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    True
     
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  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Guys it isn't mistakes, these are crimes, stop sugar coating crap.

    The system is unfair to many who want to rebuild their lives, some are successful while others use the excuses that they are facing all of this crap because of their "mistakes".

    People go through life facing worst things, some struggle with that God has handed them while others dwell on it as being a show stopper.

    I have a few felons as drivers, they know my position on what is a crime and what punishment for crimes means to me. But I don't let that stop me from hiring them to do a job and allow them to prosper.

    The op has a huge obstacle in his path, it is one that will not allow him to do much of anything. As one who knows the fall out of a sexual crime against children, I hold my judgement back of him because we don't know the story while knowing he should be more concern getting his crap together at home and finding work outside of this industry that will allow him to deal with these issues to solve them. Hos worry about his kid going to college is trivial. The kid doesn't need to go to college, but putting food on the table does. Repairing relationships does, getting work that pays the bills does.
     
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  7. James122

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    I don't see it as sugar coating as much as trying to be understanding and empathtic.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

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    I get that but we are living in a society where we are saying to criminals " hey, it is alright, you made a mistake and you can get a second chance no matter what" and in a way I get that with these "victim-less" crimes but when you have others involved who are victims, where is the understanding and empathy for them?


    I don't see it.


    This does not mean I am not sympathetic to their problems, on the contrary, I will and have hired people who did their time and did make efforts to turn it all around. The two that stick out in my fleet the most are those who have served time for serious crimes, I can trust them with my property and they have done a great job in what they said they were going to do and didn't waiver from those goals they set. I know that their past is their past and unless they use it as a crux, it is going to stay their past. One of them served a long time for a capital crime, he said that there is no way he has paid his debt to society, it is impossible to do that because the victim of his crime can't be brought back or the impact to the family can't be erased.
     
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  9. REO6205

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    Screw understanding and empathy.
    The OP is a convicted child molester and he claims he never hurt a child? That shows me an unacceptable level of denial. You don't have to cause physical damage to hurt a child. Children who are molested suffer severe mental trauma.
    My wife is a retired pediatrician who does volunteer work with abused children. Some of her stories will make you sick. Some of the things she sees will make you cry.
    The dope charge? He made a concious choice to deal dope. Now he's sorry? Too bad.
    The OP is sorry he got caught, not sorry for his actions.
    I wouldn't hire that guy. Ever.
    I understand that sometimes people need a second chance. I have two ex felons working here, both of whom I hired personally. One was involved in an armed robbery, the other was at fault in an accident that killed his passenger. Both happened many years ago. Both of those guys are good workers who went on with their lives and didn't make any more mistakes.
    But a child molester who thinks he did no harm is still a major risk to innocent people. That man is sick and with his attitude toward what he did is very likely to re-offend.
     
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  10. Scole1987

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    I get your point I really do but the way I see it we have 2 options for people in his shoes. You can give them a second chance or you can shun them out which more than likely is gonna force him into other crimes so he can support himself. It's a tough situation. I prefer to have him doing a job and occupied instead of running around on the street desperate for money to support his family. A desperate man is a dangerous one.
     
  11. TallJoe

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    I am far from defending child molesters but after seeing this documentary
    Witch Hunt (2008) - IMDb
    about innocent people convicted of sex crimes serving long time in prison., I would not -- on moral grounds - discard everybody just because the system pinned them with a label.. Although, if I were to hire someone, those with sex offender labels or drug felonies would be the last choice. That's not as much hypocrisy as convenience. Who wants to take risks and give someone that much credit of trust? But that's only business decision.
     
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