Werner compared to C.R. England

Don't you dare call John Wayne a metaphor!

He was born in Iowa!

 

The way this would work the best is to go industry wide, not just at Werner, a union is only as effective as its membership is strong (ie) number of members. If Werner was to call a strike and no other companies would honor that strike then other (scab) or non-union drivers would just pick up the loads and run with them, then the company would just bust the union. Game over. Either the Teamsters need to start a membership drive or a new organized, industry wide, Truck Drivers Union with a membership of more that 50% of all licensed drivers as members need to form. This is just my opinion but I have been in a union before as a shop steward. You mentioned early in this thread something about R. Reagan busting the Air Traffic Controlers union back in the eighties, that was the beginning of the end for unions. After that, corporations no longer feared or respected unions, thus began the fall of the middle class, and we're still on the way down.


I'm just saying...Shhhh


SkyDriver

 

Easy cowboy, no offence intended, I am a big fan of the Duke.

 

Okay but I need to wait until I get back into my truck on Monday, but lets keep in touch.

 

I have a serious question.

With things like electronic logs, gps, the various time laws, governors on max speed....

Why would any company set an unrealistic arrival time?

I see the OP has a major problem with this company but I've seen claims like this made of other companies too. I'm in the investigation phase of trucking as a future second career but the idea of being a new driver and right off the bat being pressured to either break laws or maybe be forced into a situation where you can't realistically do a good job (being late from the get go)... in short it sucks.

Does this actually happen much?

Seems like the company would lose money by being late all the time and also lose drivers left and right due to tickets and such...

 

True enough, I don't understand the industry...

I'm just trying to learn by asking questions. Your reply brings more questions than answers in this idea of drivers not getting paid but employers still collecting.

Are you saying if they construct a load with the intent of you being late you don't get paid (because you were late) but they still get paid for delivering the load?

I'm pretty sure I've got no interest in becoming part of an arrangement like that. I assumed you get paid xx cents per mile based off of either actual miles or some sort of average miles by zip codes or something. And at worst you arrive at a bad time and are stuck waiting some wasted hours until the place will accept delivery.

Maybe you lose 10 hours waiting for some place to open up in the am... That sort of thing.

Yeah, I honestly don't know much about the real world workings of it but I am genuinely interested and this forum being open to curious people like me....you are going to get clueless questions.

 

I would not sit in the desert for 36 hours with no water wondering if somebody was going to decide on a time to send anybody out or not. You must have had other options...

Anyhow, I'm still confused about this no pay thing.

If you miss an ETA you don't get paid?