Which companies do not make you team as part of training?

Um, you skipped #4.

Agree that getting a CDL is rather easy. The problem is almost every company out here won't take on a new driver without the 154 hours of CDL school. It's either their policy or demanded by their insurance carrier.

It's a "game." Either you play by the rules or you don't play.

 

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ROEHL doesn't team drive with students, but you must learn fast as their program is short. They do also have a paid training program...if you're interested in that, it is probably the best option for starting with them.

 

No I agree with you. They provided a means of getting a CDL which they have a cost associated with and which also brings value to the new driver. My comments aren't in response to the OP attempting to find a company that doesn't require trainees to team they are in response to the general attitude from the OP and others is that it is wrong and greedy of the carrier to expect anything in return for what they provide. I argee with that attitude others should have to do things for me and expect nothing in return because my college professor said everyone owes me.

 

Sarcasm can be taken too far.

Who said the carrier paid for the cdl?

No one is saying that "others should have to do things for me and expect nothing in return". We are saying that when selling your labor you should get a fair price.

Average cost of a cdl is $4,500, average cost for a new driver to go thru the onboarding process and run with a trainer in the right hand seat is $5,000. So all in training costs would be under $10,000.

CR England pays a "trainee" 28 cpm for teaming. A quick google search shows entry level team pay is around 58 cpm. Over the three months CRE pays $8,400 while an "average" company will pay $17,400. In other words, a team training company can essentially recoup its entire investment in under 3 months.

Now take that same new driver and put him in a solo truck at 34 cpm. Higher pay, higher quality of life, same level of training and it only takes the company 1-2 more months to recoup its investment.

Why wouldn't a new driver try and get the best they can in terms of training, pay, and career growth?

 

This has already been responded too right here.

And the rest of your post has already been responded to as well right here.

 

I have been responding to your post about general theory, not the op in particular.

I have no problem with a company trying to make a profit. I do have problems with company's taking advantage of ignorance and people supporting those companies "because that's how it was for me". There is no need for teaming to be part of a training curriculum. It does not result in better trained drivers and only benifits the company.

It is also debatable if team style training is in the company's best interest. If it cost $5,000 to onboard and 3 of every 10 hires quits due to issues with enforced teaming (at training pay) the break even point is equal to that of having the driver go solo. Then there is an opportunity cost because the company loses out on a significant portion of the available "talent pool" and will be limited to those with fewer options.

Back in the early 90s, Schneider was an "outlaw" company. Then they figured out it was costing as much in fines and damages as the extra revenue they made running outlaw. A paradigm shift occured, and the profit margin stayed the same.

Moving from a company's perspective to a driver's - if we allow companies to take advantage of our peers, it drives down wages/earnings for us all. Speaking about unfair/unethical/stupid policies can help new drivers make informed choices. Right now no new driver MUST team to get into the industry. Its a seller's market for labor, why shouldn't labor look out for its own profits?

 

I don't have a problem with any of that and it doesn't sound like you think they're doing something wrong or taking advantage by asking drivers to contribute to their profits in the form of temporary teaming in exchange for providing a means of gaining a CDL for free.

 

That’s foolish. I didn’t like being in a truck with a stranger during my training. If you go with Prime Inc like I did. I had Lease Ops that trained and you have to realize these drivers care about their truck since they are paying for damages, fuel, etc. It sucks being in a truck with a stranger but as long as you listen and do what your suppose to and not make stupid mistakes, it won’t take long at all to complete. Goodluck to you

 

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