Why aren't loads priced according to weight?

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  1. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Different rate on the class? On our customers that still use it the rate/class varies on 3 digit zips.

    Besides our trucks we broker also, i can't imagine trying to explain class/weight/break to most of the carriers that call. Think it would be a dead silence and then a hang up.
     
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    I pull tankers, it's all about weight.
     
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    I try to educate fellow carriers on logistics and the 'secrets' that others in the industry want quiet...lets face it, If your a carrier,You should know these things...

    While im not against all brokers..i do Feel they play an intricate role in the success or failure of some carriers..most notably,The 1 truck independents,Their knowledge is low because they concentrate on the 'street' side of things and simply don't have the time to study freight lanes,volumes,rate indexes,price shopping,contract co-ordinating etc

    as a carrier myself I hear a lot of "im getting the shipper direct"..I have to stop them in their tracks because you know as well as I do......Only a Small percentage of freight is Billed direct to the actual shipper..And most of these drivers don't understand that
     
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    wichris Road Train Member

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    Not at all unusual in the food industry to have one or more buying groups involved. Even though the shipper is paying the freight. Then charging the first buyer more who charges the second one more yet. So you want to be a customer PU for the last buyer. But that's very hard to do with just a few trucks. If you can't handle a good portion of their business they just aren't interested.

    I just got a kick out of your weight/rate comment and thinking about many carriers. Not too long ago i had one of our O/O's question how the linehaul rate seems to change sometimes. I showed him the "tariff" for the customer. His eye's glazed over and i think he headed to the bar. I think that's why it's easier most times to just give a flat linehaul rate to someone. Now the ones(our O/O's)that do the LTL's understand a little bit more.
     
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    I would think the nature of the freight has to come into play somewhere, like if it's a high density item such as steel or roofing shingles.
     
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    In a class tariff That would amount to Class 100 @ a 18-24K minimum. Can we say $6-$10 per mile and we used to (some still do) get it on a fairly regular basis. It is called exclusive use of the truck. ABF,YRC,CCX just name a few are getting it. Plus the specialized carriers. We used to haul steel out of the mills and get exclusive uses at the end of the month when they couldn't get trucks. This was under the old two check system. Those were the days! But there are still plenty of people using class tariffs. The brokers, especially the big ones understand class rates very well. They just are not going to educate anyone about them.
     
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    luisbautista Bobtail Member

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    Where can i get freigh with out a broker or load board
     
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    One option is to contract with a shipper directly. In my opinion, that's really best for all parties concerned, because it removes unnecessary hands from the mix.
     
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    Its not that hard to do,

    But then again,,,,,,,,These loadboards ands brokers prosper BECAUSE too many carriers/independents don't understand or are too lazy to secure their own freight..

    Im guessing your looking for some free tips on how to secure customers?

    Here's 1.......... Make sure YOU look and act professional,your equipment and your vocabulary cant be of a 6th grader!

    There,That was Free, You'll have to figure out the rest because it will require a telephone and some sales skills
     
  10. wichris

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    Not to sure how you get class 100 without knowning the weight/volume. Class 100 is 9.0-10.5 lbs/cu ft. Exclusive use is a term that came into being after rate de-regulation.

    Exclusive use would have nothing to do with class, you would just be looking at truckload rate. When you rate by class/weight/break the breaks are usually 500/1000/1500/5000/10000> with a CWT for each class/break for a given radius at both ends. Remember the old HHG books? 2'X3' with vicinty? Now you just use a 3 digit zip radius.