Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

I am not going to lie. I have thrown a peice of sandwich meat between two pieces of bread on the passenger seat of the Pete. Now taking a leak is a 2 min deal since we don't have stops every 20 miles around my neck of the woods, the side of the road is the best we can do. I am not logging it or flagging it.

Most the time I drive and do as I see fit to keep me comfortable and not stressed. I log as need be and still get the job done and pass all road side inspections as well as the Audit that got done.

Yes money is important to me, if it wasn't then I would be flipping burgers part time or working the till at the local gas station part time. I have 1 daughter in College, 2 daughters are seniors in Highschool and getting ready to graduate in the spring and a 3 year old boy. I spent the better part of my daughters lives out on the road and sleeping away from home. I am done with that. I am not going to put my son through the same thing, living without dad around. So I will be home most every night and if redoing pages makes that happen and still lets me put food on the table and help my daughters out then so be it. Family comes first and work is part of that since it supports my family.

I have only had one log violation in my life and that came in the earlier part of my life as a driver which was over 10 years ago. Been doing better then 150,000 miles a year since then and not 1 recordable to my name.

 

Kinda what I figured. As long as your safe while performing your job then that is all that matters. I personally have never had a log violation or an accident on my record. E-logs don't work for me. They are just another un-needed thing they are forcing upon drivers that roll over and allow it.

 

While I sit here I am just thinking about some HOS stuff. Okay I know there are guys out there that are up off duty for lets say 12 hours and then they decide to take a run, even though their E-logs are "legal" they are dead tired and now push the limit to make their load. They cause an accident but well they are technically compliant since their E-logs are all good. So they are legally allowed to be out of compliance. Yes I realize paper can do this too but we are talking about how E-logs are so much "safer" or force drivers to be more compliant. Well guess what they don't...

 

what kind of companys do you drivers work for. i never had a co force me to do anything, and by the way have never been fired from any job,and its not e logs its the 14 hr rule thats wrong,tell me when you want it ill tell you if its going to happen.let me run when i feel good sleep when need be and dont give me that plan your trip driver crap,my planning has always been when is my appointment,ok ill call you,enough planning

 

Well you're talking about it. The rest of us are talking about how there isn't a difference. Compliance and safety are not mutually inclusive. Everyone should be held to the same standards, eLog drivers, paper log drivers, drivers that can't count, paycheck collectors, all of them. Safety is in how you act, when a driver states that he pushes it to make deliveries because the consignee needs the load, safety is no longer important to that driver. When a driver speeds habitually, safety is no longer important to the driver. When a driver establishes a pattern of non-compliance they run the risk of putting everyone livelihood in jeopardy. It takes on fluke accident for a lawsuit, then you need to hope that the prosecuting lawyer is a bumbling idiot and knows nothing about DOT regulations, because if he does and you've established a pattern of non-compliance....well good luck.

 

The way I run myself I hardly ever speed and I have yet to establish a pattern of non-compliance. So why should I have to run E-logs and EOBRs? Even drivers on E-logs can run compliant within the HOS but in reality they might have been awake for 15 hours prior to logging on duty for work. Now is that really compliant? E-logs are not going to make a driver safer than a driver running paper.

 

interesting

if a driver is in non-compliance, he is unsafe? thats a safety manager talking, NOT a driver

i would like to know how much more unsafe it is to driver after having a 9.5 hour break vs a 10 hour break?

or how much more unsafe a driver who drives 11.5 hours is over a driver who drives 11 hours?

when did we become so gullible and brainwashed that we repeat the DOT nonsense without even questioning the logic behind such statements

and if DOT logic is so much FACT, why does it change every few years? truth is truth, it doesnt change

if safety is a science, stop making it an art, and if it is an art, stop trying to make it a science

 

Over the last 2 years of driving I have been through a scale house maybe 3 or 4 times but like I stated somewhere else I pulled cans for awhile and ran into Federal Marshals alot and never had a problem. Why would anyone run through a coop when all they want is to screw a guy over? Nit pick and try getting some money for the state. I have never been ticketed for non-compliance or any kind of log violation.

 

Yes, that is actually compliant. It's stupid, but it's compliant. I don't think you should have to run eLogs. Mandatory eLogs in a regulated industry makes little sense to me. Especially for o/o's with their own authority. You know how you run, so what's the point of making it electronic. I would also assume you'd be your own administrator so you'd be able to make your own changes and change the settings on your truck. It serves no purpose, if you want to cheat you're going to cheat.

 

It's about behaviors man, it goes like this. First 10 minutes is ok, then 20 minutes is ok, then well crap this is my best customer and I know I'm tired but I don't fail on loads. If that's how you want to operate your business and not follow the rules than more power to ya.