Your experience with violating HOS.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TallJoe, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. Thane

    Thane Medium Load Member

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    We're not talking paperwork here. You have some leeway with paperlogs. They're only accurate within the nearest 15 minutes. I'm talking about the tattle tale gizmos on the rigs now, the snitch machines that run up to the minute, if not up to the second. Gizmos that will tell you with warning messages you're driving illegally if and when you do. This is why all the billboards have popped up the last several years advertising truck wreck lawyers. Just about none say a thing about who's at fault. The lawyers know they can look at your gizmo data and bust you. "Yeah, my client was texting. But if YOU hadn't been there, Mr Driving Illegally, he would have gone off into the median and lived. He's dead because of YOU. Your black box says you were driving over on your hours. That means you were driving illegally and indirectly caused somebody to die because you were there instead of being off the road." I can see it.
     
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    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    Just found out today I gotta get an elog. We were unsure because our fleet is so small.

    Anyways just gonna continue to run however I #### well please. I’ll either jailbreak it or just not care. I have no interest in following a law that was only made so certain people could make more money.

    I run the boondocks anyways and never see dot.
     
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    STexan Road Train Member

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    Okay dude. Good luck with that. Obviously this is not about your problem with eLogs but it's about your problem with the HOS rules. If you have half a brain, and you're not otherwise just a dick and in constant egregious violation of HOS rules, you can live with them. But if you won't even give them a chance and won't use your brain or don't have a brain to use, then you may as well apply at McDonalds. They have descriptive pictures on everything and will tell you when to come and when to leave ... should be a good fit.
     
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    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    Ok, you mad?
     
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    Steel Dragon Road Train Member

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    In 3 years I've violated hos once by 12 minutes...anyone care to guess?
     
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    Steel Dragon Road Train Member

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    I'm guessing gross violations will be heavily fined at the next audit.
     
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    Those billboards have been popping up loot before elogs ever were a thought.
     
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    But then you need a smart phone and connection to receive the updates
     
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    Them adds from the lawyers are getting really thick, there is some folks that make a living by getting in crashes with trucks, they run in groups and pick out some poor trucker and set them up, and good luck with the courts unless you have everything documented and good dash cams to record everything. Then the lawyer and "rectum" go on tv to brag how much they made from a trucking company. Is there any real lawyers that will stand up to that and protect a trucker?
     
  10. Thane

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    Maybe OOIDA is our hope. Maybe ONLY hope. I'm not a member of OOIDA, but I've stopped in at their HQs in Grain Valley about 5 times over the years. They've always been helpful and answered my questions. They have lawyers there who can help you. OOIDA once set me on the correct course to getting what I was owed by an outfit I worked for. A course that had me file a wage claim against it after its insiders made illegal deductions and tried to charge me for #### they had no right to charge me for. For this, I tip my hat to OOIDA. I filed the wage claim through the labor board in the state in which the company was based, not my own home state. I got what I was owed.
     
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