The Indeed.com average salary for CR England drivers is $30,466 per year
CR England offers its drivers the following benefits/advantages:
There is always a big issue whenever it time for you to get home. The tractors are excellent but the trailers are poorly maintained. The Dms don’t care about your welfare are they very often give short miles. I drive team and in ten months I could only max 4500 miles in one week. Pay is the lowest in the industry. Pros.. training is good especially at the school to get your CDL. Everything ends there after that it’s the entire office staff against you.
This company is scamming new in experienced drivers with the offer of training and a job. They call you in for a job when they bus you to one of their training locations they tell you the job is probationary and that they expect you to pay for the training regardless even if they don’t hire you. If they do hire you they leave you with a trainer longer then they told you the training will be (you don’t get paid well in trading cause they already started taking money out of your already minimum pay to pay for training) so they can’t get you to lease one of their trucks. Even if you wait till they are ready to give you a job in your own truck they say they don’t have enough but you can still lease a truck. When your completely broke and have no other options you finally give in and lease one of their trucks. When you lease their truck they don’t give you enough miles to break even after all the lease payments and insurance costs each week. I worked for them for over a year my first paycheck that was more then $10. Came a year after I quit when they mailed me $15 for a booking error. The truck I leased had 30,000 miles on it. It broke down every week. It kept not starting. I replaced 8 battery’s a starter an alternator and half the fuel system before they finally found the problem. Missing teeth on the flywheel. When I asked to finally see the full record of all the maintenance done to the truck I found that before I leased it it had seven other drivers lease it and each driver caused enough damage to the engine that they replaced the entire engine several times before sending the truck out to be leased by the next person they intended to scam.
Starting pay is abysmal at a guaranteed 600 gross per week - that is, if they remember to pay you for availability pay. Trips pay you 32 cpm split. Getting them to pay you detention pay is like pulling teeth and you're lucky if you'll see even $30 of it. Some dispatchers are great while others are barely smarter or more resilient than a box of rocks. A LOT of CRE employees do like to complain about how hard their jobs/lives have been so professionalism can be hard to come by sometimes. They do keep you rolling with loads though and they have a good variety between drop-and-hook and live. On average for an employee working for 3 months miles range from 800-3000 a week. If you live in an area near delivery spots and hubs, it's very easy to get a little home time. Expect very little if you don't. They do care about their equipment but it does usually have issues that pop up frequently that will put you in the shop for a good couple of hours.
Well, they will get you your CDL and that’s good. 32 cent split for forced team driving after that. Few get solo spots very soon after “graduation” and promotion seemed to be based on need per region more than talent. I met good people there. You’ll get a chance but that’s all.
Whatever state you reside in, you receive their minimum wage amount. No mileage income. Home time is a joke. Equipment is always in need of repairs.
I used cre to get started out as well. Did otr and was lucky to find a team driver that I got along with well. Cannot complain because cre was fair, I did my six month requirement driving for them and then was able to get an easier job paying around a thousand each week.
Once you are satisfied with your driving experience and ability keep an eye out for a chance to move up.Delete Edit Full Discussion
i pull for CRE, just a rook but that is why i came here first for my career, i got my license and endorsements before hiring on, CRE is considered a "training" company and there are many opportunities here as a new driver
i am on a dedicated fleet and one of my fellow drivers who is a solid veteran driver told me a story yesterday about when he was caught in an adverse weather situation in Washington state, he was hauling $250k worth of avocados in his refer and almost ran out of refer fuel while he waited on the side of the road for two days, this driver siphoned fuel from his tractor into his refer and saved the freight
when he got back to the CRE yard in Salt Lake City,
Gene England was there waiting for him and when he got out of his truck, Mr.
England thanked him for his initiative and handed him a check for $1,000
we have 4,000 drivers at CRE so CRE is not at the bottom of "everyone's list" and please know i am not here to promote or defend CRE, just sharing my personal CRE experience which has been pretty great so far
both of my phase 1 trainers were making six figures--they showed me their pay settlements
you may not believe this story either but here goes: when i was in Phase 1 my first trainer jack knifed on black ice and was terminated, then a couple days into my second trainer's truck, who was mentally unhinged and likely clinically depressed, he flew into a rage and suddenly kicked me out of his truck at midnight at a small ts in the middle of Tennessee, he said i did not accelerate onto the highway "fast enough" so he made me immediately pull off and ordered me and my gear out of his truck, and then he drove off into the night leaving me there alone
a few days later after i submitted my "trainer
review" to the company, Mr. Dan England called me on my cell phone to
discuss the Tennessee incident and he apologized for the trainer's behavior
But for those of us who have actually read the book, our warnings are just that. The decision is yours to make, but you will also have to suffer any/all consequences that could very well happen.
As for their SLC facility, I found it to be their best location... however, beware of bed bugs at both the motels and dorm rooms. Good luck.
BTW, I hope you will resist the urges to buy all of the overly expensive CRE jackets/t-shirts/mugs/etc that will on sale at the school. That crap is nothing but a waste of money and the school is simply taking advantage of kids who don't know any better than to buy the junk... and it certainly won't help you pass the tests or get an actual job/LEASE offering.
Plus, be sure to lock all your stuff up -- CRE roomates have been know to steal stuff as they're leaving to go back home.Delete Edit Full Discussion
I really didn't want to drive for England either after 7 years off the road but so far as I'm about to complete my phase 2 training, it hasn't been as bad as I was led to believe..... I'm sure that my previous experience help me a lot and I understand many positive changes have been implemented in the past few months.... Having said that, I doubt very much I'll be staying after my 6 month comitment is up......not a solo friendly company.......teams/training is push and so far that's what I've done..... I have been training my phase 1 and 2 trainers, lol, a scary thought...... Drivers with 6 months or less experience have no businesses training anyone..pay has been OK.....$9 to $10/hr while on duty or driving, in my case I've done well...good luck to you....Delete Edit Full Discussion
Well that good attitude and positive attitude I
went in with got me through and I stuck with it to get my cdl. And the
instructors do teach u how to drive the England family is the problem and how
they treat everyone that works there I'm still positive I'm not going to let
that place bring me down its only goingto make mw so much better
Met a driver trainer with 10 months at CRE and truck driving today at the pumps. He was training two girls in his truck at the same time.
He asked about my company.... Just waiting out his two months.
He said he knew he was at the wrong place right away but he couldn't just incur that amount of debt and be unemployable.
Then he asked me what I make... Not really sure how to answer this question. Is it normal to discuss these things at a gas pump?
"I am well compensated for my time."Delete Edit Full Discussion
Cr england has some decent dedicated accounts. When I was training with them my trainer was making forty something cents a mile for both him and me. We were doing the jc penny accounts out of Spanish Fork Utah. Pretty much the same routes all week then a 34 hour reset on Friday.
After my first day of driving my trainer said Nice Job and spent the rest of the time in the sleeper when I was driving. He was making around two grand each week for a virtual team operation that month.Delete Edit Full Discussion
I'm currently working for cre. As with comments
you've read before about how bad it is mostly true they don't take care of
their drivers in any way. I'm in a dedicated fleet out of front royal va at
there best payed account. Currently being payed 40c/m 2-3000 miles a week
(solo) so that's not to bad. Our record of being accident free is 28 days
(three years ago) on average we get 10-20 people a month replaced due to
wrecks, log violations, dsp points and in general where a lot leave. that's
just what I've personally seen myself. If ur on I-64 and see a red peterbilt
that would be me
Q: Are there any experienced drivers that came over to C.R.E. even after hearing the negatives and you came over and are doing pretty well. Just want to get some feedback. I have 4 years experience and they want to bring me in as a trainer. I've heard a few drivers say they are doing well.
I'm guessing you want to stay a company driver?
You will make money as a trainer. You will spend all your time living with a stranger, that doesn't know anything about trucking except what he's going to learn & experience with you. 6 or 7 out of 10 of your students are going to be FREAKS. You will not sleep a whole lot while you have a FREAK, they don't have much common sense, hence they become FREAKS.
If you consider doing it as a lease op, take some sand paper, rub your balls with it, that's about how it's going to feel if you lease a truck.
Just stay company and let the students tear up the company truck.
Take the extra accidental death & dismemberment insurance.
CRE is a weird place. BUT they do have some hot women.
You probably make 65 to 70 a year as a company trainer. Probably make 45 to 50 as a lease trainer after you pay for all the stuff the students do to your truck. Just do it as a company driver if you do it.
As long as you do it as company you'll never lose at least, just sleep lol. I use to have them back when we had a down day, and you will, at truck stops, until they get tired, they only learn so fast. When they were exhausted backing, then map, always map, after their shift, constantly, CRE has it set up so that a chunk of the students pay comes from them completing training module every week while they are with you, and taking a test on the QC. They really do have a good training program. And the student must pass their obstacle course before he's hired to even get on your truck, that means he's got at least a little bit of a clue. So many of them just do such dumb stuff though, omg, you'll see lol.Delete Edit Full Discussion
A: They booked me for orientation in a few weeks, I have four years of experience and I already know their reputation. I've heard mostly bad and a few goods about CRE. I was told by the recruiter that the trainer pay is "0.34 cpm" for all miles. I've been off the road for about 3 months and one thing I can say about CRE is that are a true 48 state company which I am looking for Just don't like the negatives I hear, but that is at every company. Still praying about it.
A: You'll make money at that rate. You should average 4500 miles a week. If you get a strong student you'll do almost 5000. Yes CRE you will get around lol. They have some long runs.Delete Edit Full Discussion