The Indeed.com average salary for CR England drivers is $30,466 per year
CR England offers its drivers the following benefits/advantages:
School is fly-by-night. You never get decent backing practice, literally drive the truck twice before i took my test. Stressfull. It makes up for this with phase $10/hour when driving state minimum when on duty on duty not driving. Not great pay, buy for me it was ok. I've heard horror stories, but my phase 1 was great, honest. Helped me a lot. Turned my 180 hours in 3 weeks. Upgrade was a joke. But i got my hometime then. Now the real problem. I got on my phase 2 truck as a second seat. Basically team driving but the company only deals with the other guy (I'll explain) i got a load from Atlanta GA to Phoenix AZ. My lead driver decided to not follow company routing, fuel optimization, ect. Something i had been told was a no-no. But ok, he was the lead. I'm sleeping while he's driving, and i expect to have to adjust. But in 3 days i got 8 hours sleep. Slamming on brakes, constantly waking me up to have me do random things got him, asking me why we were behind, why i didn't run 600 miles in my 11 hours during rush hour in Dallas.TX. Having to explain time zones. How the company does trip planning. Ect. Got to Phoenix and got a load to the yard in California. When i got there i jumped out after a 2 hour conflict with the lead seat. called my dm, told him. Had been in contact with him the entire time i was on the truck. Since i told him i jumped out i haven't been able to contact him since. I was stranded across the country (I'm from Georgia) at a yard, no beds, no contact on a Friday when every one in the offices go home for the weekend. Had out not been for other drivers i would have slept in a chair at the yard. Pay as of 2017 is.28 split. You have to drive team for a while, typically 6 months or more, but of you are Lucky you can get solo or dedicated (not both) after about 2 months. The only good thing about this company is if you get a dedicated route as a owner operator,.like my phase 1 was. That's it. If you get in here, get out. Seriously. Nobody deserves this. I'm calling around tomorrow, gonna find a job.
Equipment is great...all new, all automatic and well maintained. I've never had an issue getting my home time. Every time I request it (about once every 4-6 weeks) it gets approved. Company says they only want you to take around 4-5 days but I've taken up to 6-7. I'm not sure how their pay compares to other companies because I've never worked anywhere else. Personally...I made around $500 week in Phase 1, anywhere from a ONE time low of $350 to a high of $900 a week in Phase 2, I probably averaged around $750 a week in Phase 2. As a trainer I average around $1200 a week. I never had a problem getting miles in Phase 2, I ran anywhere from 4500-5600 miles a week. Take care of your DM and they will take care of you. Loads were 80% Refrigerated with the occasional dry load thrown in.
Trucking school is a scam. My school contract had the terms that I would be hired to team with a company driver if I successfully passed the driving exam through their school. Well I successfully passed and I was placed with a company driver for 1 day then switched to an owner-operator. CRE then made us drive 100+ miles empty to pickup loads multiple times. Then they stuck is in BFE for a week with no loads. We were never late for a load! My owner-operator decided to quit and we drove all the way to SLC and he told me that I was fired(he had no authority to do?) & he rented a car to get home. So I sat in SLC for a day in CRE's office to talk to someone , but I waited until closing and they told me to get out. I guess they forgot about me. The guard was nice. She said that I should try again tomorrow and sorry for my troubles. But, I didn't want to spend the little money I received from driving on a hotel, so I took a bus home. I made about 350 a week driving for more than 50 hours a week, you do the math. The "x cents a mile" only applies if you have a load. Furthermore, I never got to go home once I left with the owner-operator until I left CRE. I was out for months.
Trainees got $0.13/mile, employees got $0.23/mile. Weekly miles vary widely for no predictable reasons. Road training is conducted principally by people with 6 months to a year of driving experience, and usually by people who got their CDL at CR England's school. Trainers (both classroom and road) turn over frequently. Drivers rarely last six months. I lasted 8 months and made it home once. My second time home, I quit. Loads are mostly refrigerated, mostly live load/live unload. When you do drop and hook, check the trailer that you pick up thoroughly; if there is anything wrong with it (most commonly out of fuel, but sometimes mechanical or electrical problems) they will expect you to babysit the trailer at ThermoKing until it is fixed. This means if you bring it into the shop on a Friday evening, you'll be there until Monday morning - they will not pay the overtime to the shop, to fix it during evening or weekend hours. DO NOT LEASE A TRUCK FROM HORIZON TO DRIVE FOR THIS COMPANY!!! They will pull your freight to make you fail your lease! They will tell you that you can drive for whoever you want with the truck, but the terms of your lease require information and services from the carrier that make it a practical impossibility to drive for anyone but CR England on their lease! In a class of over 100 people, not one completed their lease! You will not get the miles that they use to make the numbers sound attractive for a lease! The equipment will fail, and warranty or no, you still have to make the payment, whether the truck was in the shop all week or on the road! DO NOT LEASE A TRUCK FROM HORIZON TO DRIVE FOR THIS COMPANY!!!
They have 250 - 300 new CDL drivers every 10 days or so and there Drivers have no leverage to get decent pay. Low Pay no home time.
I used cre to get started out as well. Did otr and was lucky to find a team driver that I got along with well. Cannot complain because cre was fair, I did my six month requirement driving for them and then was able to get an easier job paying around a thousand each week.
Once you are satisfied with your driving experience and ability keep an eye out for a chance to move up.Delete Edit Full Discussion
i pull for CRE, just a rook but that is why i came here first for my career, i got my license and endorsements before hiring on, CRE is considered a "training" company and there are many opportunities here as a new driver
i am on a dedicated fleet and one of my fellow drivers who is a solid veteran driver told me a story yesterday about when he was caught in an adverse weather situation in Washington state, he was hauling $250k worth of avocados in his refer and almost ran out of refer fuel while he waited on the side of the road for two days, this driver siphoned fuel from his tractor into his refer and saved the freight
when he got back to the CRE yard in Salt Lake City,
Gene England was there waiting for him and when he got out of his truck, Mr.
England thanked him for his initiative and handed him a check for $1,000
we have 4,000 drivers at CRE so CRE is not at the bottom of "everyone's list" and please know i am not here to promote or defend CRE, just sharing my personal CRE experience which has been pretty great so far
both of my phase 1 trainers were making six figures--they showed me their pay settlements
you may not believe this story either but here goes: when i was in Phase 1 my first trainer jack knifed on black ice and was terminated, then a couple days into my second trainer's truck, who was mentally unhinged and likely clinically depressed, he flew into a rage and suddenly kicked me out of his truck at midnight at a small ts in the middle of Tennessee, he said i did not accelerate onto the highway "fast enough" so he made me immediately pull off and ordered me and my gear out of his truck, and then he drove off into the night leaving me there alone
a few days later after i submitted my "trainer
review" to the company, Mr. Dan England called me on my cell phone to
discuss the Tennessee incident and he apologized for the trainer's behavior
But for those of us who have actually read the book, our warnings are just that. The decision is yours to make, but you will also have to suffer any/all consequences that could very well happen.
As for their SLC facility, I found it to be their best location... however, beware of bed bugs at both the motels and dorm rooms. Good luck.
BTW, I hope you will resist the urges to buy all of the overly expensive CRE jackets/t-shirts/mugs/etc that will on sale at the school. That crap is nothing but a waste of money and the school is simply taking advantage of kids who don't know any better than to buy the junk... and it certainly won't help you pass the tests or get an actual job/LEASE offering.
Plus, be sure to lock all your stuff up -- CRE roomates have been know to steal stuff as they're leaving to go back home.Delete Edit Full Discussion
I really didn't want to drive for England either after 7 years off the road but so far as I'm about to complete my phase 2 training, it hasn't been as bad as I was led to believe..... I'm sure that my previous experience help me a lot and I understand many positive changes have been implemented in the past few months.... Having said that, I doubt very much I'll be staying after my 6 month comitment is up......not a solo friendly company.......teams/training is push and so far that's what I've done..... I have been training my phase 1 and 2 trainers, lol, a scary thought...... Drivers with 6 months or less experience have no businesses training anyone..pay has been OK.....$9 to $10/hr while on duty or driving, in my case I've done well...good luck to you....Delete Edit Full Discussion
Well that good attitude and positive attitude I
went in with got me through and I stuck with it to get my cdl. And the
instructors do teach u how to drive the England family is the problem and how
they treat everyone that works there I'm still positive I'm not going to let
that place bring me down its only goingto make mw so much better
Met a driver trainer with 10 months at CRE and truck driving today at the pumps. He was training two girls in his truck at the same time.
He asked about my company.... Just waiting out his two months.
He said he knew he was at the wrong place right away but he couldn't just incur that amount of debt and be unemployable.
Then he asked me what I make... Not really sure how to answer this question. Is it normal to discuss these things at a gas pump?
"I am well compensated for my time."Delete Edit Full Discussion
Cr england has some decent dedicated accounts. When I was training with them my trainer was making forty something cents a mile for both him and me. We were doing the jc penny accounts out of Spanish Fork Utah. Pretty much the same routes all week then a 34 hour reset on Friday.
After my first day of driving my trainer said Nice Job and spent the rest of the time in the sleeper when I was driving. He was making around two grand each week for a virtual team operation that month.Delete Edit Full Discussion
I'm currently working for cre. As with comments
you've read before about how bad it is mostly true they don't take care of
their drivers in any way. I'm in a dedicated fleet out of front royal va at
there best payed account. Currently being payed 40c/m 2-3000 miles a week
(solo) so that's not to bad. Our record of being accident free is 28 days
(three years ago) on average we get 10-20 people a month replaced due to
wrecks, log violations, dsp points and in general where a lot leave. that's
just what I've personally seen myself. If ur on I-64 and see a red peterbilt
that would be me
Q: Are there any experienced drivers that came over to C.R.E. even after hearing the negatives and you came over and are doing pretty well. Just want to get some feedback. I have 4 years experience and they want to bring me in as a trainer. I've heard a few drivers say they are doing well.
I'm guessing you want to stay a company driver?
You will make money as a trainer. You will spend all your time living with a stranger, that doesn't know anything about trucking except what he's going to learn & experience with you. 6 or 7 out of 10 of your students are going to be FREAKS. You will not sleep a whole lot while you have a FREAK, they don't have much common sense, hence they become FREAKS.
If you consider doing it as a lease op, take some sand paper, rub your balls with it, that's about how it's going to feel if you lease a truck.
Just stay company and let the students tear up the company truck.
Take the extra accidental death & dismemberment insurance.
CRE is a weird place. BUT they do have some hot women.
You probably make 65 to 70 a year as a company trainer. Probably make 45 to 50 as a lease trainer after you pay for all the stuff the students do to your truck. Just do it as a company driver if you do it.
As long as you do it as company you'll never lose at least, just sleep lol. I use to have them back when we had a down day, and you will, at truck stops, until they get tired, they only learn so fast. When they were exhausted backing, then map, always map, after their shift, constantly, CRE has it set up so that a chunk of the students pay comes from them completing training module every week while they are with you, and taking a test on the QC. They really do have a good training program. And the student must pass their obstacle course before he's hired to even get on your truck, that means he's got at least a little bit of a clue. So many of them just do such dumb stuff though, omg, you'll see lol.Delete Edit Full Discussion
A: They booked me for orientation in a few weeks, I have four years of experience and I already know their reputation. I've heard mostly bad and a few goods about CRE. I was told by the recruiter that the trainer pay is "0.34 cpm" for all miles. I've been off the road for about 3 months and one thing I can say about CRE is that are a true 48 state company which I am looking for Just don't like the negatives I hear, but that is at every company. Still praying about it.
A: You'll make money at that rate. You should average 4500 miles a week. If you get a strong student you'll do almost 5000. Yes CRE you will get around lol. They have some long runs.Delete Edit Full Discussion