Hi all! There's a really interesting missing persons case, which normally I don't pay much attention to, but with some twists and turns, I've become pretty interested in this one! There is a young woman, who was a Dr. doing her residency in Michigan. On the night of her disappearance, she went to a hotel, which was probably just as close to the hospital (opposite direction) of her apartment. The last time she was seen was by the shuttle driver that took her to her car, where apparently she was originally going to get her ID/additional money or credit cards and then come back to the hotel. When they got there, she was strange, backing up, and said she didn't need a ride anymore. The shuttle driver saw her get into her car (and there wasn't anyone around...he looked around a bit because of her strange behavior backing up and ducking and diving) and then she left. This was in Kalamazoo, MI. About 2 hours later (roughly the right amount of drive time), there was a 911 call in northwest IN reporting erratic driving. 2 minutes later there were several calls (based on a scanner feed archive) that indicated that there was a car in the ditch at mile marker 23 on I-94 westbound (1 mile east of the Burns Harbor/Porter exit). Within 10 minutes police were on the scene (the county archive feed gives me that timeline, but they indicated the ISP officer was there too....so I'm not sure what time that trooper arrived), so this is a very very small timeline. The bottom line though is that there was no one in the vehicle. They couldn't find her at any nearby exits, ground searches have turned up nothing (but they haven't been able to do more extensive ones due to the weather conditions we've had in the midwest). Initially ISP didn't know that she was missing (she was reported missing the next day by her work but they thought she had a rental car, so ISP didn't know this abandoned car was related to a missing person for a week). Apparently nothing was "suspicious" about the car, because it was impounded that night. As people started looking into her and her online activities, it turns out she had multiple social media accounts, and was basically journaling some very concerning mental behavior on them. Despite the fact that she deleted the tweets etc they were able to be recovered with online tools. She also had a stalking issue with a musician, who had in September sought out a PPO against her. Basically....it appears she had an "undiagnosed" mental condition (quite likely in the schizophrenic realm like schizoaffective disorder, which combines schizophrenia and bi-polar basically).
So..... do you guys have a way that you can reach out/network and find truckers that regularly travel that stretch? I know 911 calls were made...not sure if any motorists stopped to assist/check the car when they saw it go off the road or what. The road is so heavily traveled there though, that I just feel someone saw something and didn't realize what has since transpired. Like, if they saw someone already "stopping to help her" then they would keep going. But if someone saw that and could describe a vehicle, then there's a lead for law enforcement to further gather info. I really feel that the law enforcement and PI the family hired haven't done the best job of getting word out to people in the immediate area or truckers that travel through often.
Few things to note as to the strangeness of this case:
-likely mental illness...highly (she was hearing voice which she attributed to religious i.e. God/Demons)
-she was supposed to work the next day
-she seems to have intentionally left her work ID, cell phone, and purse in her locker at work
-she left her ID, credit cards, and $7 in her car (but she had borrowed $100 from a coworker that night)
-her car had a flat tire when it was found in the ditch - they aren't sure if it's a result of the ditching or cause of the ditching
-she believed she was being followed by security from the singer she was stalking (so I find it hard to believe she'd accept a ride)
-she very quickly, within minutes, "disappeared into thin air"
Missing Person's name is Teleka Patrick. There's a good chance if she was being secretive she would tell someone her name was Cassie, Sandra, or Sandra Cassie because her middle name is Cassandra and she had social media accounts with those variations.
The accident/timing is around 9pm to 9:20pm CST on 12/5/2013.
Here's the missing person info from the FBI http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/taleka-cassandra-patrick
Thanks in advance if you guys have any info or know where would be a good place to go for answers from truckers. Much appreciated!
Very interesting missing persons case and wondering if truckers may be able to help?
Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by basschica, Jan 26, 2014.
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From NBC news. She's a stalker!!
They also spoke about Grammy-nominated gospel singer Marvin Sapp securing a personal protection order against Patrick in September. Sapp, pastor of Lighthouse Full Life Center Church in Grand Rapids, alleged that Patrick claimed to be his wife, contacted his teenage children and had been to his home. He said she had joined his church after moving from California.
Fuller said he believes Sapp is "an innocent victim of an apparent stalking" and has no evidence they ever met or had personal contact. -
Yep, she is/was, which was just one manifestation of her apparent undiagnosed mental illness...all the more reason for her to be found I'd think. My interest in it was mainly because it's not your typical case..all the online/social media stuff led finding out about the stalking. Plus, if she's still alive, all the more reason to find her too, because she could show up and violate her ppo, right? I guess I take the stance of, if she came into harm's way, either by a predator or her mental illness...either way, her family deserves to know. -
Actually, the OP disclosed that part (the stalker charges) in the post.
I really don't understand how the medical community, especially her superiors/teachers, could allow her to become a "doctor", being as she had already demonstrated serious mental illness on many previous occasions (according to news reports). The even more peculiar coincidence is she was going to be specializing in psychiatry.
I can understand your hope to find answers & additional evidence thru the trucking community. Truckers are likely to be the best "eyes" for any incident that has happened on the highways. However, as the TV program 48 hrs is accurately named, finding answers and gathering evidence/clues quickly vanishes with each passing day. The reality is,, police don't do any meaningful investigation in the onset of missing persons cases such as these. Even tho she literally vanished into thin air, leaving her vehicle & belongings abandoned. By the time they start to get serious with any investigation, it's typically much too late.
This is far from a typical missing person case. The woman's behavioral pattern was very erratic in days prior to this incident, and it was reported she had several past occurrences of very erratic behavior and having shorter duration incidents of "going off missing" in the past. The mental problems and erratic behavior really complicates "clues" and directions to take in an investigation of this nature.
From the trucker's side, it may be too late (or nearly so) for "remembered info" at the scene where she disappeared. You can only hope that a passing trucker sees the report and something jogs his memory. Even in the case of finding trucking companies that run thru that route regularly/daily, it will boil down to the individual trucker, as the companies could care less about providing anyone with info on where their trucks were at any certain time.
In missing cases like these, obtaining & reviewing footage from as many security cameras as possible on the route, is sometimes the best source of info & leads. But that takes a lot of effort in both time & cost. Tho, after a matter of a week or so, most video footage is usually overwritten/gone by then.basschica Thanks this. -
Totally agree. I figured as far as remembering that since her car went off the road about 40' that there's at least a slightly above avg likelihood someone would remember that. I love the first 48! This case is a perfect example of why that is so important. The law enforcement in MI didn't run her license plate through LEIN for a week because they thought she had a loaner/rental car of some type. I'm like...seriously?! There's basically 0 chance of security footage now like you said too.
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As you know, the time that has elapsed since this occurred is now the largest setback. When I mention security cameras, many people (wrongly) assume I'm speaking about security cameras within viewing area of the scene (where she had the flat, went off-road, & vanished). When in fact, actually security cams along the entire route, and as far away as Ann Arbor, MI could actually provide leads as to what specific trucks may have been headed to the scene of her disappearance by matching time & ETA, even tho it's 200 miles away.
Unlike cars, trucks that are on a particular interstate hwy will still be on that same interstate hundreds of miles away, especially as in this case, where it occurred before a major city (Chicago) and before any real major intersecting interstates. Many trucks are also equipped with dash cams. I realize all of this is futile info now, as too much time has elapsed.
Also, there is a set of DOT truck scales only about 8 miles prior to where she disappeared. I'm not sure if that possibly would still be a viable source for police to have gathered data/info/leads on trucks that were passing the location of the scene, all within a 15-30 min time frame. In any case, all of this is most productive only when investigated swiftly after the disappearance.basschica Thanks this. -
Thanks, yeah and the other option too could be to check Ipass/Ezpass records as well, but I somehow doubt law enforcement will do that due to the lack of attention to detail I've noticed on the case. For example, 2 months later now, they held a press conference last week to confirm the details that they "know" about the case. They seemed pretty transparent and it didn't seem like they were holding much back to be honest. They indicated that there were 2 911 calls (one at 9:02 to report erratic driving and one at around 9:15 to report a car in the ditch). When I found the scanner recordings on broadcastify...there were several calls beginning at 9:04 (well they sent the emergency tones at 9:03:45 (if the time on the scanner was exact) with the dispatch info at exactly 9:04. Then there were a couple more calls after that and the EMT from the county indicated that they were on scene at 9:13 and confirmed no occupant in the vehicle at 9:16 (and also indicated that IN state police unit was on the scene as well). So that doesn't match the info law enforcement had and it makes me think they only spoke with ISP and not the county. That being said if they did speak with ISP and were told they got the car in the ditch call at 9:16 and the trooper arrived at 9:20, then ISP did not report the information correctly, because a county EMT said that ISP was on scene at 9:16. If I were the Kalamazoo (in Michigan) county Sherriff's dept (since they are the investigating agency)...I would ask for dispatch logs/recordings from the state and the county and all the 911 calls and CallerID/caller info. They've overlooked some readily available and basic information in my opinion. Now...2 months has passed and even if you do speak to those callers, that time lapse is going to cause you to have less accurate accounts from them naturally.
<---- me lighting a fire under their tuckus-es
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Well, the missing woman is a young black medical student that they know suffered from mental illnesses. Had it been the governor's daughter or someone politically prominent, we all know that the investigation would have been in high gear right from the get-go.
You know far more about this case and details than I, at this point. This is an interesting case, especially because of those 911 calls and the relatively quick response to the scene by first responders. Also the fact that this is a well traveled part of I-94 with a typically high volume of traffic. For her to vanish in this short timespan is more than unusual.
Almost as if someone was "right there" to pick her up after she went off the roadway.
Do they have any idea exactly why/where she was going at that time of night? The "relatives" in Chicago? Phone activity prior to her disappearance?basschica Thanks this. -
As a professional patient (and one with family members in the medical profession) I can assure you that many doctors, and most of those in the fields of psychiatry/psychology, are pretty whacked themselves. There's a reason they go into those fields of study.basschica Thanks this.
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I agree completely. I have first hand knowledge of that myself, from personally knowing several medical professionals in that specific field.
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