10 day training? Are you high?

Pfft, even CR England does that.

 

You'd be surprised how little driver's ed teaches in some areas, we deal with this at an advanced teen driving school.

As far as I'm concerned, a trainer truck should be marked as such and the trainee should have to wear a colored vest and the trainer is REQUIRED to be in the passenger seat, if the trainer isn't in the passenger seat while the trainee is behind the wheel, the truck is placed OOS for 24 hours.

 

And that's why all the big companies want this, they can also electronically "Adjust" the logs as need to make them look good rather than someone trying it with paper. Someday one of these companies will get caught in doing this and it will throw the whole " ELOGs are safer and people can't cheat on them" theory.

 

That's the thing, nobody needs to do anything to the logs until the field officers start checking them. Most have no idea what they're looking at. Much like drivers the officers are resistant to change, they see something new and they'd rather wave them through and inspect the next guy using paper because that is what they know.

 

The main thing I hate about e-logs is how easy it is for the company to alter a document that I have sworn to under penalty of perjury.

If I had a minor edit on a paper log, I'd initial the alteration. If it was a major goof, I'd scrap the sheet & remake it. With e-logs, the carrier seems to have complete control over YOUR legally binding documentation, and that just doesn't sit well with me.

 

Original entries are still recorded as well as the change, the person who entered the change, and the reason for the change. A company should probably not be making very many changes to your logs without your consent and a way to track that. Otherwise there will be a dispute. It gets tricky when a driver falsifies his logs and refuses to make the change. The drivers certifies the logs are accurate, the carrier can prove the logs are false. Do you change without the drivers consent and state "correcting false logs"? I'm not sure what the right answer is.

 

The FMCSA is taking surveys at various truck stops on elogs.. they are offering drivers $10 cash to take the survey...

 

Nothing tricky about it. The logs are the driver's, not the carrier's. If you want to report the suspicious log entry to the DOT when the driver is uncooperative, more power to ya, but forcibly changing a sworn declaration is wrong.

 

Being liable for the drivers false logs, and for accepting a false log is what makes this an interesting situation. Well it wouldn't if I were in charge, but I'm not the boss and I don't care about turnover.


Question 21: What is the carrier’s liability when its drivers falsify records of duty status?
Guidance: A carrier is liable both for the actions of its drivers in submitting false documents and for its own actions in accepting false documents. Motor carriers have a duty to require drivers to observe the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs).

 

Nowhere in there does it say to edit the driver's logs. Fire them & notate the inaccuracy (on a separate and attached sheet) sure... but as far as changing the log, no.