Can a State government tell you where you can and cannot sleep?

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  1. newbtr1

    newbtr1 Light Load Member

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    the overzealous Texas department of public safety went to my address to see if I was there, now they don't want to issue an ID/driver license, because I was not there and they even threaten arrest, I don't have a residence anywhere else in the USA, YES I am an American citizen.

    If I'm off at work and spend little time at that address can the Texas DPS really deny an ID/driver licence?

    I told them that that was my home but most of the time I don't sleep there.
     
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  3. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    Yes, you have to call the local DPS office each day and tell them where you are.


    Really, there has to be more to this story. The DPS does not send officers to check to see if you are home to determine if they will issue a license. That is unless you are on probation or such. Then it would be the probation officer not the DPS. Dps has more to do than to check on where an applicant is sleeping.
    To obtain a license, you are required to prove your residency by showing documentation that has the address you are using to apply. Such as tax documents, power, lights, and /or gas bills, Cable TV bills, all in YOUR name, not someones else name.
    And, NO, DPS troopers will not come to your house to see if you are sleeping there.
     
  4. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    simple answer yes they can.

    The state statue even says they must verify that you live within Texas. That verification is via documents that you provide.

    So there is more to this story than presented.
     
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  5. Oldman49

    Oldman49 Medium Load Member

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    They wernt telling you where you can sleep,,they might be verifying if you lied on your paperwork.
     
  6. newbtr1

    newbtr1 Light Load Member

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    I am not a criminal
    and because of work I live 99% of the time on the road, and really dont LIVE at the adress I provided
     
  7. rambler

    rambler Road Train Member

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    There is more to this story. Something *may* have been said or done by you somewhere along the way to getting a Texas CDL to possibly give the state reasonable suspicion that you *may* be misrepresenting where you live. Or maybe they are just randomly checking your info. Who knows?
    The state is not stupid to the point that they don't know drivers are often gone for very long periods of time so the 99% gone thing is a moot point and won't hold water. They have been through this same thing probably a million times with other license applicants, you can believe it's not their first rodeo and are likely very proficient at figuring out where you do live. Living "on the road" is not a valid answer as you are finding out. If the address you provided them is in fact not your residence I hope the occupants of the address realize they could possibly get in trouble if they lie about you living there.....IF you do not. I'm not saying you don't live there, so understand that.
    Texas is apparently going above and beyond to ensure the days of living in one state or country and licensing in another are over. I hope you are on the up and up with them and good luck to you getting it straightened out. Can you imagine how weird it would sound to a LEO to be told "this is my address...but I never sleep or stay there any". Hell it sounds weird to me even. They are doing their job, nothing more.
     
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  8. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    And that is exactly what they are investigating. do you actually live there? which you just admitted you don't.

    And you already told them as much; "I told them that that was my home but most of the time I don't sleep there."
     
  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Not to mention Texas likely is a bit more picky than most states as they have no state income tax and get a lot of people wanting to use the state as their 'residence' to dodge taxes.

    -Steven
     
  10. MidwestResident

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    If you have an apartment in Texas, show them a copy of the lease. If you have been there for any length of time, show them a copy of your utility bills, (gas, electric, telephone, etc.). Also, if you have direct deposit in a bank or credit union in Texas, you could show them a statement with your Texas address on it. One last thing, if you have registered to vote in Texas, show them the documentation stating such.
    All this LEGITIMATE proof shows that you are a legal resident of the state of Texas.
    As for proof of American citizenship, show them a certified copy of your birth certificate, or naturalization papers if you are originally from a foreign country.
     
  11. Getsinyourblood

    Getsinyourblood Road Train Member

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    States with no state income tax are nice, aren't they?
     
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