On the driver side no. On the broker side yes. Are there liars on both sides yes. I had a driver lose us a new client. Because they didn't show up on time or deliver on time for a critical load. With no communication as to why. I know loads run late due to ling hold overs at some shippers/recievers. Could have communicated those delays. But this driver was for whatever reason comms silent. I don't lump him in as typical for a driver as we shouldn't lump the shady brokers in w/the good ones.
Brokers Should Be Prosecuted For Price Gouging!
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Wombat63, Apr 10, 2020.
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The brokers have been doing well since the ELDs were mandated.They tell all the customers they have to raise the rates but its not passed on to the trucks.The contracts between the truck and the broker can't be disclosed to the customer that pretty much sums it all up.
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Here is what gets me about people in this business, they are so concern with hat a broker makes.
So I have a driver like this and I tell him to settle down it only matters what the truck makes.
These are not the $1.5/mile loads but $2.75 plus loads (this driver is on a tear at $3.5 loads all this and next week from one broker) and I tell him that who cares what he makes it matters what meets your needs and what you make. These brokers he and other drivers are using are paying as soon as they get the paper work, the driver drops it into the scanner, emails it and we get the money and that gets sent to him the next business day.
I can't fault the broker if they charge the customer $5 a mile and the truck is getting $3.TokyoJoe and Midwest Trucker Thank this. -
For the prices to be said that low, that means some truckers out there are running it for that price. That’s who you need to go after. If that load sits and sits and sits and nobody takes it the price comes up. That’s how it works. Find the idiot drivers willing to work for free and lecture them!
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My experience in freight for the past 6mo. The Dat load board gives you the 15day average on the lane. Everytime I call on a load it seems they explain the load and ask for my mc# even before discussing pay. I ALWAYS tell them I will haul for 200$ over the 15day average.
Ha...good luck with that! Ive only seen $2 a mile a couple times and I usually call 15-20 brokers. Lots of 1.6-1.8 garbage..a good way to go broke!
* I start back with tanker/chemicals this week.
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I leased my truck to a carrier. Most of our freight pays 3mi under contract $80hr detention $100 stop. Im getting 70% of linehaul . 80% of Detention 80% of stop pay. 100% of relocating the Truck @$250 on 1 acct only.
$500 detention on another acct I get 80% of that only 10hrs of detention is required.
I see brokers booking some of our Contract loads at $2 that i been getting $3.50 mi for almost 3 yrs now. Brokers are booking alot of our other contracts for atleast $1.00 mi less than what im getting it for . I been running OHIO to ATL for $2200 for last 3 yrs. I dont see brokers paying that at all. Company im leased to doesnt blink a eye for freight that pays $1 mi because it gets us back to our Contract loads that pay 3+ mi. That's how spot markets work. They are intended to fill a gap to help companies get back to their contract lanes . Spot market isn't intended to run a business on. Those who depend on it will work like dogs or fail and go out of business. If you want to succeed in trucking you gotta have Contract freight. Thats why i lease to a carrier that lets me free lance both contract and spot. In times like now there is an over capacity of trucks but my contract rates remain the same while the spot market is in the toilet. Also brokers pay our detention and stop pay rates no problem . But they don't for others because they know they dont have to. Their making money off O/O so they can afford to pay 1s like i lease to. Thats Trucking. When markets are bad hang on to the shirt tales of a carrier with contracts . When markets come back up jump ship restart your authority ride the spot market. Or do like i do find a carrier and freelance without moving back and forth . I have never in 30yrs owned my authority. I have no problem buying a New truck and still make decent money with alot of hometime . Im lucky if i work 225 days a yr . Thats usually my avg. I have friends that work 300+ and driving their life away. They make 50k more a yr on avg.but honestly they can have it . After their authority payments and headache of running with brokers not worth 50k . I enjoy my time off to much.TokyoJoe and Montanaland Thank this. -
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fuel will go up with the new deal made over the weeking on cutting oil , and price will go up hopefully
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