UH OH !!!!

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Dave_in_AZ, May 20, 2020.

  1. scott180

    scott180 Road Train Member

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    They did cap the profits on health care. You can see what that did to your rates.
    O/O would make sure to include every penny they spend. New marker light $1.50 Time and effort to put it in $20.00. Just like doctors and hospitals do it for an aspirin. No more all inclusive CPM.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Probably be much nicer equipment too.
     
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  4. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    I can tell you one thing I would be charging for on my current load. I picked up a load of ice cream yesterday in Manteca CA when it was 105 outside, and my reefer has been operating on high for the last 24 hours to maintain the -20 temp the BOL required. I'm still waiting for these idiot lumpers to get me my paperwork, but I used 3/4 of a tank of fuel for this one load.
     
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  5. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    After the transparency reflected what some O/O were truly making the government would feel compelled to grant them subsidies and Aid being most were 1 week from going under.
     
  6. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Every broker on here claims they make no more than a soft 15%.

    Perfect.

    Transparency = Broker 15% Carrier 85%

    That's what we're all making now right?
     
  7. LtlAnonymous

    LtlAnonymous Road Train Member

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    Relevant. He just posted it.

     
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  8. Antinomian

    Antinomian Road Train Member

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    That would result in the extinction of independent brokers. Soon there would be only one or two national brokerages, probably owned by insurance companies.
     
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  9. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Why would we need any brokers if it's a strait 85/15 split in the era of on line????
     
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  10. Last Time Around

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    Correct me if I'm misunderstanding things from reading replies.

    Most O/O's aren't really independent,.. and most aren't really any better off financially than company drivers?
     
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  11. clausland

    clausland Road Train Member

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    Just my thoughts:
    1. They're not, O/O agreed to the rate offered by the broker.
    2. It's not the broker's fault.
    3. They could comply or get out. When that happens, you are seeing one example of socialism, when the government controls businesses vs a free market (capitalism).
    4. Different types of O/O's:
    A. Quasi O/O's who lease their equipment to an established carrier, run under their numbers, their insurance, their rules, for an agreed upon % of monetary return.
    B. O/O's that have direct customers (shippers), but also use brokers, usually for return loads.
    C. O/O's that predominantly run the spot market, utilizing brokers for most, if not all, of their loads.
    D. The only thing the government does is take a percentage of your hard earned money because they can. Government help you?, surely you jest.
    5. Some do.

    I may have left something out, but that's it in a nutshell. People clamoring for socialism (ie; government controlling rates) will regret it, but once it's established, it'll never go back...
     
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