It's all a very strange interpret the phrase "Shall not be infringed". Still very cut and dry to me and those who have studied the history of the second amendment. Any law abridging the right is unconstitutional. No permits. No controls. Period.
Concealed carry legislation
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Purely historically, 2nd Amendment was created at the time of different fire arms technology, military and law enforcement characteristics.
Purely historically, makes you wonder if the founding fathers would want it now the same way they wanted it over 2 centuries ago. -
Let us assume that this legislation is passed. And let us also assume that you have a concealed weapon, and have to use it someday.
At the moment the police have full authority to carry a weapon. And qualified immunity, soon to change if certain groups have their way. And they are being prosecuted with vigor over using that weapon in more and more cases. . You can have all the concealed carry pre paid legal insurance in the world, it is still going to have a major impact on your employment and life after that.
In the examples that have been in the news lately, the tanker driver in Minneapolis, the Fed Ex driver in Saint Louis, the food service driver in Maine, all three were detained and some charged with various crimes after the altercations. What do you suppose would have happened if the drivers had opened fire with a weapon, on an unarmed crowd? I fear that a jury of 12 in those jurisdictions would have no problem with a guilty verdict.
I do not know what the answers are as this country slides into anarchy and ignoring the rule of law. I do know this is not Hollywood, the good guys here might not win.DoubleO7 Thanks this. -
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First of all, you better be in the right when you use deadly force, but even if you are, just think about how you'll be judged by 12 and prosecuted in a rabidly anti-gun city or State.
To those people in those areas, 2A is meaningless, just as the 1st is fast becoming, that is unless you agree with their radical point of view. Additionally, the places were you would most likely need to use deadly force is those same areas.
Personally, I just don't go there. Places like NYC, CA, & NJ, I just refuse to enter, and at my age, I don't need to anymore....DoubleO7 and Studebaker Hawk Thank this. -
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I was specifically pointing at the epoch in which they were bearing side arms everywhere in the World at the time, even for ornamental purposes, if nothing else.
So, I would not be so sure. The same exact way, I would not be so sure, if they would not have difficulties understanding contemporary American English. -
For example, a driver is subjected to government interference in their life 24 hours a day 7 days a week because they are drug tested, because their driving record off-duty is monitored, and hours of service etcetera. Trucks are pulled over constantly and randomly for no reason whereas cars the police need a probable cause to pull them over.
Also commercial drivers are in a unique circumstance that the general public is not. The general public drives their personal vehicle to wherever it is that they feel like going and if they don't want to go or if there is danger there they do not go.
Commercial drivers have to go, the nation needs them to go, and they really have much less choice in the matter. They also often travel Interstate, with the truck being their domicile, whereas the general public can get a permit to carry and just stay in there own state. So the question of safety for them is a bit of a different circumstance.brysol01 Thanks this. -
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