Class 3 looking for class 1 learners answers

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  1. ellencraig

    ellencraig Bobtail Member

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    I have my class 3 with air, I'm driving a semi with a class 1 holder. I'm wondering if anyone knows what the rules are for the states? Can I still drive as a learner?
     
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    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    look up the state Department of Motor Vehicle (DMV)web site.
     
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    Class 3??? Class 1???

    Ive never heard of numbered Classes of CDL... Only lettered Classes A, B, and C
     
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    Canadian.
     
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    Aaahhh... That would explain it.
     
  8. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    But not all Canadians.


    Ontario uses letters.


    But they use different letters than you guys.


    For some, but not all.


    :biggrin_2559:
     
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    ellencraig Bobtail Member

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    As a learner holding a class 3 driving a class 1, in the states can you run hours or like in Canada run under the class 1 holders log?
     
  10. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Same as in Canada, you can only drive if the Class 1 holder is in the passenger seat (and awake! ;)).

    §383.25 Commercial learner's permit (CLP).

    (a) A CLP is considered a valid CDL for purposes of behind-the-wheel training on public roads or highways, if all of the following minimum conditions are met:

    (1) The CLP holder is at all times accompanied by the holder of a valid CDL who has the proper CDL group and endorsement(s) necessary to operate the CMV. The CDL holder must at all times be physically present in the front seat of the vehicle next to the CLP holder or, in the case of a passenger vehicle, directly behind or in the first row behind the driver and must have the CLP holder under observation and direct supervision.​

    Although the FMCSA allows up to 2 hours off-duty in the passenger seat of a moving CMV (immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth; §395.2 Definitions: On-Duty Time (4)(iii)), the lead driver would then be... off-duty, so technically they wouldn't be supervising you. Therefore, you can only drive on their log hours.
     
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