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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by bad-luck, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    Because thats a contract between them and their customer. Has nothing to do with the trucking company... Whats keeping you from going to their customer and undercutting them and steal their business if they had to share what they are getting paid... me personally i dont think its the trucking companies business what the broker is making off the load....
     
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  3. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    Well 1st of all because it's the law. They are required to tell you! Did you not know that? 2nd when You complete a Carrier packet to get set up with the broker, You are signing a non compete clause, so you can and will be sued. And by your last statement I don't mean this as an insult but that tells me that you are a company driver, correct? Otherwise if you were an independent or an owner operator you would have a completely different outlook on what we are discussing.
     
  4. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    why should i care what they are making ? i call on a load and negotiate the rate to a number that i feel is good for me. what does it matter what the broker is making off the load.... i think some of you guys forget how essential brokers are, to the freight industry. they provide a service. either use them or go find ur own customers... they bridge that gap and bring the customers to you. so u negotiating a rate with the broker. that is between u and the broker . i dont see why it matters what rate they negotiated with THEIR customer... nobody is complaining when the roles are reversed and the broker is taking a loss to cover a load
     
  5. Long FLD

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    So what good will it do to know the rate after the fact? Which is what OOIDA is petitioning for. And if you won’t waive your right to see the paperwork for the load the broker doesn’t have to give you the load. The guys that want the government to help will likely find themselves helped right out if business when it becomes a pain in the neck to deal with them and the loads can be offered to megas that can offer a ton of capacity.
     
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  6. Snailexpress

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    So what is wrong if broker looking for fools? We all looking out something for free or cheap, isn't it? Free parking. cheap tires, cheap repair, cheap trucks.
     
  7. bad-luck

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    So if you stopped at your local conscience store looking for hand sanitizer, and they had a 4 ounce bottle for $50 would you buy it? Of course not, because you know that you are getting ripped off. But I bet if you knew the broker was ripping you off you would be happy! And how do you know the broker is taking a loss on a load? Be cause they said so......
    If you believe everything the broker tells you, I will give you a really good deal on the Brooklyn bridge.
     
  8. vangtransport

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    If the broker in this example showed you that they only took 3% off this load, would you have taken it?
     
  9. bad-luck

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    Think about it, over time we would know what all the lanes pay the broker. You would know if the broker is ripping you off. Why are some of you so against getting a better rate? I understand if your s company driver, what do you care a out the rates as long as you are getting a pay check. I felt the same same was back in the day when I was a company driver.
     
  10. Long FLD

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    See the thing is that people are choosing to waive their right to see the shipper’s rate under their own free will. Nobody is forcing anyone to work with brokers that they don’t want to work with. So people are making their own choices and now they want the government to “help” them. And I’d bet the same people wanting help now were probably saying and still say the government needs to stay out of their business when it comes to ELD’s.
     
  11. bad-luck

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    If the load was paying decent, absolutely! But if the broker got the too cheap, and the rate was cheap no I would not
     
  12. Long FLD

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    Think about it. There are new carriers all the time. And many people don’t build relationships with brokers, they chase rates. So as long as there are one and dones the rates won’t come up because there will always be guys moving that load for the same rate.

    And I’m not against better rates. My rates are just fine because I don’t and have never used a broker. So that’s why I’m against all this transparency crap, I don’t want rates to be public knowledge.
     
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