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Placard question

Discussion in 'Hazmat Trucking Forum' started by Air Cooled, Jun 30, 2020.

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  1. Jun 30, 2020 #1
    Air Cooled

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    i believe I know the answer to this but I’d like to hear some expert opinions.

    Tomorrow I’ll have my usual flammable and non flammable placards as I’m a cylinder hauler. I will also be displaying an inhalation hazard placard as I will he hauling chlorine which has a RQ of 10 lbs and requires a placard.

    I will finally have over 1,001 lbs of acid in 55 gallon drums. I know this requires a fourth placard displaying corrosive.

    At which point do these labels require the UN number. In particular the inhalation hazard and corrosive material?
     
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  3. Jul 1, 2020 #2
    truckdriver31

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    whats the orange book tell you
     
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  4. Jul 1, 2020 #3
    Air Cooled

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    I believe that a larger quantity of these gases IE in a tanker would require a UN number as its in bulk. This mostly doesn’t apply to my daily functions but I’d like to know out of curiosity and to get a better understanding.

    The JJ Keller books and FMSCA is basically like interpreting Chinese
     
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  5. Jul 1, 2020 #4
    Ridgeline

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    What he said.
     
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  7. Jul 1, 2020 #5
    wis bang

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    Corrosive, that amount doesn't require the UN 1830 corrosive.
     
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    MACK E-6

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    The UN number is required for shipments in bulk packaging, or for more than 8800 or so pounds of the same product on the truck with nothing else on board.

    Shipments requiring display of the number due to bulk packaging are not to be counted toward your aggregate total for placard requirements.
     
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  9. Aug 20, 2020 #7
    WillisReid

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    FWIW Reportable quantities have nothing to do with placard requirements.
     
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  10. Aug 21, 2020 #8
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    I was lokig for that weight information for quite some time. The latest TDG (Canadian book) doesn't say anything about it anymore.
    A shipper recently mentioned 8820 pounds. I think it may compare to 4000kg.
     
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  11. Aug 21, 2020 #9
    wis bang

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    When they started making non tank vehicles display the 4 digit UN/NA number is was any HM over 8000# loaded from the same shipper needed to be identified by the number on the appropriate hazard class placard.
     
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