Tires question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by msmspilot, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. msmspilot

    msmspilot Light Load Member

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    Since we have a few DOT guys here, and inspections have been mentioned recently, I'll ask my question.

    When you have tires that are worn with a wavy pattern (the out of alignment stuff), you can end up where most of the tire is fine, but the low points on the wave are almost no tread.

    For the tread depth requirements, do you look at the majority of the tread or whatever the absolute lowest point you can find is?

    Obviously, if you flat spot a tire, that can leave the majority fine and the flat spot is showing belts. I'm basically asking at what point I need to bug the company about crappy trailer tires.
     
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  3. kwray

    kwray Medium Load Member

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    If there are spots below the wear bars I would bug them to replace it. And get the alignment checked too.
     
  4. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You go by the wear bars, regardless of the remaining tread.
     
  5. msmspilot

    msmspilot Light Load Member

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    Not all tires have wear bars. And what about when you have an edge of the tire that's worn to almost no tread (less than 1/32) but the rest of the tread is fine? the wear bars say there's plenty of tread but would an inspector agree?
     
  6. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    It doesn't matter how much of the tire has worn spots. If you have any spot that doesn't meet the requirements then the tire must go. It's written right there in the little green book that you should have in the truck. FMCSR §393.75
     
  7. msmspilot

    msmspilot Light Load Member

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    Which part of that reg specifically are you using to make your judgment?

    The part that seems applicable to me reads "tires shall have a tread groove pattern depth of at least 2/32 of an inch when measured in a major tread groove" (emphasis added)
     
  8. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Pardner, just think about it from a logical standpoint. If you have a tire that has good tread 98% around, and has a flat spot (excessively worn) on the other 2%, you gotta know and realize that it is going to fail because of that 2% flatspot. Does that make sense? The whole purpose of the minimum tread requirements is for safety, not trying to outsmart the Feds/inspectors, while under going an inspection.
     
  9. msmspilot

    msmspilot Light Load Member

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    Don't even get me started on that. I'm trying to make sure I run legal and when a mechanic blows sunshine up you know where I can identify it and not fight them over a legal, but shabby looking, tire.

    You need to go reread the question anyway. I know flat spot doesn't fly. But how much tread is enough? Across how much of the width of the tire? If tires always wore evenly across the width, I wouldn't be asking the question.
     
  10. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Non Steering axle tire must be 2/32" or better. If both tires have 0/32" measured in two adjacent treads, it's OOS. On a steer axle 4/32" or better. If less than 2/32" on a steer, OOS. Hope this helps. I'll post the exact wording of the OOS criteria when I get a chance. All the books are out in the car, and right now I don't feel like lugging all that crap in the house.
     
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  11. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I wondered how this was measured.

    I check mine on the smallest tread and when it nears 3/32 I am looking for new tires. I did not know about the related treads you mentioned.
     
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