New warrantless search laws

Bugsy6 and OTR500 while it may be true in what your saying, but doing this will raise the LEO's suspicion. The both of you are forgetting that you can be detained for 72 hours without being charged. Also if you are assigned a company truck thoroughly clean every nook and cranny after the company details it. That way you know nothing is there.

 

BULLCRAP.
They still need a reasonable cause warrant to search your truck. Suspicion doesn't cut it any more.

 

Of course it (what they are looking for) doesn't matter.

Neither do I, but that isn't the point, is it?

I don't have a problem either, but that doesn't mean I am gonna let a cop into my truck who might want to plant "stuff" to boost his rep.

I can wait just as long as he can. I got all day.

What will his basis for requesting a warrant? Suspicion? More likely he won't get one.

Having a License and volunteering for a search aren't the same thing, and are mutually exclusive.

Constitutionally guaranteed rights don't have a thing to do with "politics". You can give up yours, I DON'T HAVE to give up mine.

Nothing to lose but your rights......

 

Let it "raise his suspicion".......
That doesn't mean a crime has been committed, nor does it mean he will get a warrant. And that 72 hour thing........it only applies if he has REASON TO BELIEVE (ie: someone reported or he witnessed) you of committing a crime that would normally result in your arrest. It DOESN'T work as a "catch-all".

 

I wish it was BULLCRAP!

LEO's are using new tactics especially in border states that effective tiptoe around Constituional Search and Seizure 'Rights'. Example: LEO's now term 'Mere' Suspicion as a LEO's 'right' to further investigate a vehicle(a non-consent to search would/could escalate the 'mere' suspicion to further scrutiny)

Is this legal or Constitutional? Not really, however it is occuring as we speak... Legal action against these LEO's is also extremely difficult as they evoke 'State' or 'Federal' actor status.

Make no mistake, these Gestapo tactics ARE currently happening.

Welcome to post 9/11 'Patriot Act' America!

 

The LEO's can term it whatever they want... That doesn't mean the judge will.. If an LEO searches your property illegally, anything they find will be immediately thrown out of court.

I asked a DOT trooper about this and he told me YES they can go into your truck but only to inspect that you have the proper emergency gear (Extinguisher, triangles, etc). Without consent they cannot go into your personal effects (bags, cupbords, glovebox, storage area's, etc)

And if you read into the law, that makes sense. And yes, the patriot act is rubbish... I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but with that fact being brought up and people blaming Bush and conspiracy theories for the tragedy.. Well, we've lost some of our rights and privacy becuase of that.. So that seems like motive to me.

There were talks about being able to tap into phone lines and enter peoples residence without consent long before that.. It almost seems like 9/11 was just another push to get what they wanted.

 

I don't see what's new here either. you have never been obligated to give consent to search. refusing consent to search does NOT give probable cause/reasonable suspicion to search. you can NOT be detained for refusing consent. an officer has to have more than a "hunch....." when they go to court, they have to be able to give the reason for the search (they saw your buying drugs/picking up a known prostitute/have a video of your just robbing the quickie mart, etc.) they can't just say "well, he was acting 'funny'...."




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