Earnings to operating expenses

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Nicknice, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. Nicknice

    Nicknice Light Load Member

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    Ok guys. We all know diesel is the biggest expense you look at when calculating how much per mile you need to make per load.... But what else do yous do to factor in your fixed expenses for the month (insurance, truck repair fund, taxes, ECT)
    Are yous breaking it down per day/week/ mile (which would be difficult because mileage is different each week).
    I'm about to go on my own and would like to see what works... And doesn't work out there.
     
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  3. Gdog66223

    Gdog66223 Road Train Member

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    I use Excel spreadsheet to keep up with maintenance and expenses.

    With fuel, permits, maintenance program, taxes, and insurance your gonna be around $1 per mile using your own authority. So, when I started I had $1 per mile on the foundation and I had to make at least $2.50 per mile to stay aflot and build the business.

    Best way to get your per mile down is to pay for some things up front. For example: Pay for insurance and permits up front. Then take $5000 up front and put into a maintenance account to get it started and add to it as you go along. If you stay ahead of the game then you will get your per mile down.

    Take your first year and build your business and then 2nd year see where your at before you spend major purchases.
     
  4. Nicknice

    Nicknice Light Load Member

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    How many miles a week were you aiming for? And how much were you putting toward maintenance a week/month. How did that cushion work for you and what was the lowest you can remember it dipping into?
    Staying ahead of the game is the only way you want to be. Otherwise your treading water until that one wave comes and sweeps you under.
     
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  5. Gdog66223

    Gdog66223 Road Train Member

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    I wanted to be around 3000 miles per week but I also look at price per load the broker is willing to pay and then I look at how many miles that load is and then do the math equation. If I am not in my margin that I want to be for that load and price then I don't take it.

    So, when I first started my margin was $2.50 per mile I had to make to actually build my business. In 2018, it just so happened that year was a booming year for trucking so I managed to get $3 and $4 per mile loads just about all the time.

    The best way I can explain this to you is a chart that I used to calculate Variable Cost and Fixed Cost. What you do is you add up your Variable Cost and divide that number into your miles per month and do the same for Fixed Cost. Then add the two together to give you your cost per mile. This is a rough estimate to get you started.
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  6. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Actually, LABOR is by far more expensive than diesel.
     
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  7. Nicknice

    Nicknice Light Load Member

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    Thanks a lot gdog. I'm still old school pen and paper. I guess it stupid and time consuming not to use a spread sheet to make it easier.
    Accidental trucker. I'm going to be running flatbed. So the labor is going to be me sweating.... But I never thought about that if I ever decide to pick up a van.
    Thanks guys... Anything else you would recommend I be aware of? Them big expenses you know of and prepare for. The little things are what pick your pocket broke.
     
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  8. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    Fixed costs I break down to the day then fuel/repairs I figure into a mile, I also factor in an average driver pay even though I pay myself a lot less, just have to figure out what works for you but in my option there is zero reason to run a truck 3000 miles a week
     
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  9. Gdog66223

    Gdog66223 Road Train Member

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    That chart is just an example of what you fill in. Obviously your miles are going to be bigger than 8400 per month and your gonna have more fuel. I was greedy and I wanted 3000 miles per week and I wanted that extra money. Some guys aren't hard runners but I am.

    I'd start my bank account with at least $15,000 right out the door for any major work that may come up within the first 6 months. It takes 6-12 months to even build a business and get started. Just make sure you start with a decent account.

    As long as you follow that chart example, fill in the blanks in your variable cost and fixed cost, and do the math equations like i showed you to get your cost per mile, then you will never go broke. Also, That chart doesn't show taxes or paying yourself so, you can add into the fixed cost of paying yourself per month and taking out taxes each month.
     
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  10. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    You seem to be using past tense wording. So does that mean you're not averaging $2.50 per mile presently.?
     
  11. Gdog66223

    Gdog66223 Road Train Member

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    No I still do but I was giving this guy a chart to go by to help him in his business, something to shoot for when he gets out there.
     
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