Greasing Problems

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  1. 9200 IH

    9200 IH Bobtail Member

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    About a year ago I put all new s-cam shafts and bushings in my truck. When I tore everything apart I noticed I had way to much grease everywhere, mostly coming out from behind the cam. So I told myself to stop greasing it so much. Not the amount of times I grease it just not so many pumps. Well since then I have had two of the s-cams shafts freeze up on me. I either am not greasing enough (quantity of grease) or I am using a poor quality of grease.

    When I got home with it the other day when it was froze up and hot I pumped 50 pumps in three different times while I was taking things apart and never did get any grease to come out from behind the s-cam. That's 150 pumps of grease. I have a pistol grip grease gun not the lever type but I think they pump the same amount of grease per pump.

    Maybe when I installed the new shafts and bushings I did not get enough grease in it to begin with and I have been playing catch up ever since.

    Or

    I am using a poor quality of grease. I use grease from Tractor Supply. I use the heavy duty grease they sell for two fillings then I will put a tube of Extreme Duty 3% moly grease in, the black stuff.

    I grease the truck every 8,000 miles

    I am on road mostly, very little gravel, not heavy haul flat bed 80,000 or less.

    Am I using bad grease

    Am I not greasing enough--------- amount of miles

    Am I not giving it enough grease-------------until this last problem I was giving it about 10 pumps.

    When I replaced the shafts and bushings they were wore out. 1,200,000 miles so the grease flowed in there pretty easy, now with the new stuff it must be harder to get the grease in the new bushings.

    What do you think
    Thanks Mike
     
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  3. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    I generally have put my grease intervals at a roughly 5000 mile / two week interval type of schedule. On cam bushings, I have pumped till I start to see grease coming out at the chamber end of the shaft tube. Not convinced you are using a low quality grease. Maybe not the "best", but hardly substandard either. A moly fortified grease is a good thing to use. It is very possible that you are playing catch up. Those shaft tubes hold quite a bit of grease between those bushings. I use a pistol grip style gun myself. I haven't used a lever version in quite a long time, and it is possible that the pistol versions don't quite shove out the same on each stroke as a lever version. I would just pump away till you get grease starting to come out the end, each time you grease. Not only are you greasing, you are pushing out road contaminates that have worked their way into the ends of the bushings between greasing. Just wipe on any excess with a rag.
     
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  4. mtoo

    mtoo Road Train Member

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    I use a 14volt Lincoln gun, I put like 10 shots in my s cams. That electric gun is one of the best things I ever bought.
     
  5. 59halfstep

    59halfstep Light Load Member

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    Copy that driver. I used to use mine to grease the grease tube adjusters on track machines. That gun could break through many a stuck fitting.
     
  6. Edjahman

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    I've been wondering for the longest time about how much I should grease my S Cam tubes. It's the biggest pain as far as greasing goes.

    I just usually give it at least half a dozen pumps from the electric gun but I never hear or see anything giving me any peace of mind knowing I did it correctly.
     
  7. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I've always pumped until grease flows out around the slack adjuster. Most cams have a lip seal on the "S" end to prevent grease from ending up on the shoes. Just gotta watch in there to make sure its not all going in there.

    Everything I've ever greased on a truck (aside from the clutch release bearing and cross shaft bushings) I've greased until grease just starts to flow. Zero issues with seized parts or premature wear.
     
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  8. Edjahman

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    OK thank you for the information. I just didn't want to over grease them. It's been a mystery to me for many years.

    Thank you!
     
  9. Edjahman

    Edjahman Medium Load Member

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    I mean I would just pump pump pump and the entire time I'm thinking, how much grease does this S cam tube actually take and how do I know when to stop.

    I grease everything else just fine.

    I will definitely check out what you told me though. I really appreciate it because it's seriously been a mystery for a really long time.

    So are you saying that grease will start coming out of the tube where it connects to the slack adjuster?

    I was always afraid it would pour grease into the brakes.
     
  10. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Normally you'll see it come out between the tube and slack. Sometimes it'll come out thru the splines on the camshaft too. If you think you're putting too much in, just shine a light in and see if its coming out around the cam.

    I've seen really dry ones take 25-40 shots to get the grease to flow.
     
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