Do you log a road test during orientation?

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  1. Oct 7, 2009 #11
    txviking

    txviking <strong>Trucker Geek</strong>

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    How you're "classified" is irrelevant. If you're operating a commercial vehicle, you are required to comply with Hours of Service regulations. DOT could care less if you're an employee, an independent contractor, the dispatcher's daughter's boyfriend or a guy off the street when they write you a ticket.
     
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  3. Oct 7, 2009 #12
    AKN Freightliner

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    Hi all,

    When we road test personnel, they do not run a log book and neither do we. I can run all I want as a local driver running a tractor trailer and never run a log book unless I fall outside the exceptions for a 100 air mile driver.
    As a local driver and road test evaluator, you and the person being evaluated can operate under 49 CFR 395.1 (e)(1)


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    Type of Exception
    Conditions That Must Be Met
    49 CFR Section
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]100 air-mile [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]• Logbook not required [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]• Report and return to work reporting loca[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]§395.1(e)(1) [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]radius driver [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]tion within 12 consecutive hours [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times](Also see driver[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]• Stay within 100 air-mile radius of work [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]salesperson) [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]reporting location • Keep time records showing time in, time out, and total number of hours [/FONT][/FONT]​
     
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  4. Oct 7, 2009 #13
    Allow Me.

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    There are un-written exceptions, such as students with permits behind the wheel. When I was an instructor in Ca., we never had log books in use. No log books when being tested at the DMV either. One time, the DMV tester drove a truck back from the students road test (not my company). Did the tester have a log book? Don't think so. Did the student fail his road test? Oh, yeah.
     
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  5. Oct 7, 2009 #14
    GasHauler

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  7. Oct 9, 2009 #15
    LogsRus

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    However the soon to be driver must account for all hours worked for the previous 7/14 (Canada) days, thus we make them log it on line 4.
    Could you see a driver sitting in class 8 hours then completing class and boom he/she is dispatched because he/she didn't have to log it, meaning they would be awake 22 hrs with no rest, legally. Not going to happening.

    Logging line 4 is sufficient though, logging line 3 shouldn't hurt you either way.:biggrin_25513:
     
    LogsRus, Oct 9, 2009
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