Broker transparency listening session

Yes that's right. And for Big bad Bill, or John or whatever he calls him self to have the nerve to call truckers ignorant after he screwed them over in the comment section of the broker transparency article I find it not only ironic but disrespectful. He is the reason we need transparency

 

I didn't read the article. I just scrolled down to see the comments. I think the whole broker transparency thing is a big nothing burger. People who want to know what brokers make out here simply can't cut it running a truck. There wasn't any price gouging when rates were a dollar a mile in the shutdown. No sane person would believe that nonsense.

 

Owner Ops making their point...


FMCSA listening...

 

I don’t really care if a broker makes 200 grand a week. All I care about is what the shipper gave him for the load. That’s what we want to see, the original shipping rate. If the shipper gave you $5,000 1,000 miles to find a truck but you’re posting it as $2,800, then we have a problem. If they keep insisting $2,800 is what they gave you, then you need to FaceTime me and let me see what the email says. Video call me and look me in the eye.

The other problem are moron drivers that’ll haul a 2,000 mile load for $500. I’m on a fb group and I’m seeing new O/O’s looking for a lane that will allow them to be home everyday. Next year I’ll see “is there a lane that I can do from 9am-5pm?”. Well why won’t you be a local company driver instead? No no! I want to be an owner operator!

This is the other problem, lazy people and people who want everything to be served in a silver platter.

 

Who cares? Why would they listen. You gonna break open your books and show the broker how cheap you can run? It's only fair.

 

Nobody is paying a broker $5,000 to move a load and then the truck is getting $2,850 consistently. That broker will be undercut by so many other brokers and carriers so quickly it would make your head spin. Do you really think shippers are that stupid and brokers don't have the same competitive pricing pressures that we in trucks do? If you want to know what that shipper is paying get off your lazy butt and put in the work to get the freight direct yourself.

Why are you worried about what other owner operators want from their business? Anyone hauling a 2,000 mile load for $500 is either 1) hauling a partial - 2) really stupid and going to go out of business soon or 3) really smart and running a much more competitive business than you. So why can't you run your own business and make money without wondering about everyone else's? Be careful what you wish for because when government gets involved it never ends up being what everyome wanted.

 

Tell me the difference between shipping rate and carrier rate. I worked for a private fleet for many years. Their private shipper is one of my direct customers, that’s how I know the inside scoop.

So you’re saying a 1,000 mile load that is paying $5 a mile doesn’t exist?

Do the math on this one. If you’re one of these people that want everything served in a silver platter, wait 30 days to see my settlement. Drivers want to see what the shippers are paying the brokers. Nobody is paying $5k-$10k? Yeah you don’t know what a shipping rate is. It doesn’t make sense that a broker takes almost 50% cut and there’s no risk factor involved. Their only risk factor is sitting in a chair in their own comfort zone.

Do you really thing a broker who has egg farms as shippers, is going to be undercut by megas and brokers who deal with containers? That’s like putting 20 pallets of Coca Cola Soda on a Flatbed, it doesn’t work like that.
I don’t know why you’re clapping for the brokers, straight up ignorant.

 

Brokers dont take 50% you live in a fantasy world. I booked a $5,000 load going 1,000 miles last week from a freight broker. It was an ok load nothing really special or unusual about it. I've booked better and I've booked worse. Have no idea if they lost or made money and really don't care to know.

I'm not one of these lazy bums complaining about the rates brokers pay. I've been a member of this forum for over 10 years and been hauling brokered freight almost exclusively for 10 years now. I promise you will not find a single post among the thousands I have made here complaining about any rate I have ever gotten from a broker nor have I wondered what they made. We do not need transparency. It's ignorance of people who don't know how to run a truck in a free market that want to know what brokers are making. If they ever do come up with some ridiculous transparency reg your ignorance will be rewarded with disappointment.

We all have choices out here. No-one is holding a gun to your head and making you take any given load. You can put that truck into the wind and go wherever you please. You can say no to a BS rate and even get your own customers cutting out the middle man if you please. And it's no real secret where the money is at out here. So go get it. Quit asking for a handout from the brokers.

 

Live in a fantasy world huh. Do you really want to go this route driver. Comparing apples to apples, settlements to settlements. I don’t believe anything you’re saying.

But you’re acting like all 3 million+ truck drivers in the United States should hop in the Midwest lane where all they’re doing is a big loop, just a giant circle.

In all your 10 years you’ve never taken a broker to small claims court, or sued the shipper for withholding shipping manifests. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a unicorn. And the unicorn is saying we don’t know crap about running a business.

The conversation is over, troll.

 

How do you know John is Bill? Regardless the comment "He" made is spot on IMO.