Had it up to here....

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by ttnae, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. User666

    User666 Medium Load Member

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    That's because they slowly widdle the invoiced rate down to 50 percent off after all their theft, I mean fees.
     
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  3. dpaczowski

    dpaczowski Bobtail Member

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    Hi TallJoe, please do not get it twisted. I respect (most) drivers 100% and I try to hold myself to a higher standard than some of the shady folks in the industry. I just would expect the same in return from my carriers. Just be honest, don't lie, don't be a dick and neither will I. If you're late, tell me, if you're unable to make pick-up/delivery, then tell me. These "rules" or "notes" on rate cons were not just made up out of nowhere, they were made up out of necessity from crappy drivers, and over the phone, you have no way to differentiate. Similar to the person above who accepts tracking then deletes it...HE IS ONE OF THEM. And hate to break it to him, we ARE alerted when an app is uninstalled or turned off. The OP came in seemingly generalizing that ALL brokers are scumbags and that he should not have to send paperwork, allow tracking, or give out drivers information when he IS working for them. Without their load being offered to him, he would have no load unless he found one himself. If he was dealing directly with the customer he would have to send them paperwork too, so why not send it to the broker. If he doesn't like brokers, then do not accept their loads. But don't come crying to the forums because he lost business to one and is bitter and claim they all suck and they have no business being in the industry.
     
  4. dpaczowski

    dpaczowski Bobtail Member

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    Yes, there are some shady folks out there, I am not disagreeing. BUT, there is also a lot of shady, lazy, carriers out there too who think they're god's gift to earth in their stretchy sweatpants undershirt and sandals rolling around in a beat ### truck
     
  5. User666

    User666 Medium Load Member

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    Same here but the broker is a middle man too. It makes most sense to give the driver the contact information and them handle it. Like you, that's what I do too. I had a broker give me a hard time about asking for the receiver's name and phone number. He said they don't give it out on that particular run. That tells me the contact was probably also the shipping manager or whoever is in charge or the transportation at the drop. I said, "what's the problem? I signed your contract and it clearly had a Back Solicitation Clause which I agreed to. Things will go much smoother if I handle it directly instead of contacting you for every little thing and/or issue." He ended up giving it all to me and I never even had to use it because the shipper told me what I needed to know. Long story short...he's been calling me weekly to do that run for him.
     
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  6. User666

    User666 Medium Load Member

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    You could also cross out what you don't like and send it back. Have them agree to it in writing. Can be as easy as a response to an email stating they agree.
     
  7. User666

    User666 Medium Load Member

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    Do you charge for tracking? I do. $150 to be exact. It's amazing how not one single broker has paid that fee yet. It's funny how it goes from "tracking is required" to "oh, no big deal. We don't really need it".
     
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    User666 Medium Load Member

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    Ha! No. Doubt. For the record, I'm not a broker hater at all. I'm a POS hater. That includes the scumbag variety of leeches as well as the dirtball truckers that should be cleaning toilets for a living.
     
  9. ttnae

    ttnae Light Load Member

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    LOLOLOLOKL!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are delusional.

    How many loads can a broker move without trucks? ZERO "0" None. You are BROKE without trucks.

    How many loads can trucks move without brokers???? EVERY ONE
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    How do you not understand this. You obviously don't understand so I'll explain it to you in a little more detail.
    Brokers were born our of a lack of the technology that exists now. 30 years ago, many companies had their own logistics divisions to arrange their freight. Brokers and 3PL's show up and say "We have relationships with thousands of trucks, we can do this for you and you can save money if you fire your logistics people". That was your "IN". Shippers got lazy and started relying on brokers.
    With the technology that is available now, there is little to no reason for shippers to go direct to load boards (to do the same thing that you do) and find their own trucks. Maybe even build a relationship with the good service providers.
    I'm sure that I missed it but where is the broker "necessary"??
     
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  10. ttnae

    ttnae Light Load Member

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    That's hilarious. No, we do not charge, it's factored into our cost. We consider it an inner office efficiency because we don't get all of the unnecessary update requests. It helps US.
     
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  11. ttnae

    ttnae Light Load Member

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    True and that's what we do. And as I said, we have some great broker relationships but It still doesn't change the fact that brokers are not a necessary ingredient in the supply chain.
     
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