GVWR vs total allowed weight

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RBM, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. RBM

    RBM Bobtail Member

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    I am considering truck driving. As I'm studying the CDL manual, I find myself a bit confused about the fact that combination vehicles have a GCWR of 26,001 lb, but the US government allows them to transport 80,000 lb. So, why are they allowed to carry that much weight when they are rated for much less?
     
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  3. I glide 47

    I glide 47 Road Train Member

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    Keep studying, you're still confused!
     
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  4. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Two different class of trucks. If the GVWR is 26,001... then that's all he can carry total weight, truck trailer, cargo everything.
    A class 8 big truck has a GVWR of 80,000 generally speaking & can carry that much weight .... truck, trailer, cargo etc.
    To be clear, a small truck with a 26,000 GVWR can not carry 80,000. We're talking about two totally different combination vehicles.
     
  5. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    Who said they're rated for "much less"?
     
  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Weight can be confusing. I spend more time with rookies on weights more than anything else. The primary difference between a "rated weight" and a "gross weight" is actually simple once you learn the basics. It is important to know what is being discussed when rated weight is being talked about. Example. A vehicle is defined as a CMV with a rated weight of over 10,001 pounds. A CMV for the purposes of a CDL is defined as one that has a rated weight of over 26,001 pounds. If a suspension has a rated weight of (X) that's the limit for that vehicle. The typical 18 wheeler has 3 contact points on the ground. The steers (12,000) The tractor drives (34,000) and the trailer tandems (34,000) = 80,000 pounds gross MAX. If you have an axle or tandem with rated weights below these numbers based on suspension/tire limits THESE limits have to be subtracted from that maximum 80,000 gross.
     
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  7. RBM

    RBM Bobtail Member

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    I simply misunderstood the whole concept of gvwr/GCWR. The second reply cleared it up. I had it in my head that the 26,001 lb gvwr was for large trucks, which I now know it is not
     
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  8. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    And just a follow-up most trucks have a tag on the door that will tell you what the actual weight rating of the truck is, gvwr, and the combination weight which is the gross combined vehicle weight rating, gcvwr, pulling a trailer.

    Most tractor trailers have a GVWR of 52000, and a GCVWR of 80000, although some tractors can have a higher GVWR.
     
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  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    My single screw has a 33K rating, but it’s tagged for 80K.

    The tractor itself has 2 axles, but pulling a set of doubles with it adds 3 axles.
     
  10. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    The 26,000 is for the difference between CDL and not. If it's over 26,000 lbs registered it requires a CDL to operate for business.
     
  11. RBM

    RBM Bobtail Member

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    Thanks everyone for your input. You've been quite helpful
     
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