Mike is right. I catch and cite at least 10 driver's a week with a false log book. 10 hours out of service and a hefty, hefty fine. It's not worth it. I see these guy come to court and lie to the judge, make some B.S. excuse up and still get the fine. Again log it the way you drove it.
Legal miles in 14 hours?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Mooniac, Oct 23, 2009.
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big wheels, The Challenger, jtrnr1951 and 2 others Thank this.
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OK Dieselbear, I was hoping you'd respond. Could you log or answer this for me.
Assume I don't go over the speed limit and log it as I drive it.
Start 6 AM / Stop for break at 8 AM / Start again at 8:23 AM / Stop for break at 12:00 PM / Start again at 12:23 PM / Stop to fuel at 3:00 PM / Start again at 3:23 PM / Stop for break at 6:00 PM / Start again at 6:23 PM --- How much more driving time do you have until 8 PM?
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Actually, the way the log is set up EVERYONE that drives a truck and uses a log lies. It is what it is, and any trucker that says they DON'T lie in their logs IS a LIAR. There, I said it!
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I'll have to go out a get a grid sheet to figure this. I'm out of fingers and toes ! The 23 minute thing is nice. Sounds like your over your 11 hours before your 1800 break.
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I do realize this, the ones I get are the ones with the most lies. For example, logging a city and state in off duty or sleeper and being 200 miles from there going through a toll area. Getting inspected in let's say Georgia, not logging it and on that date and time in the log you are in Chicago. Hiding return trips or runs.
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OK, I'll play.
I marked your hours out and you are over your 11. Remembver the logs say "Lines 3 AND 4" Now, if your 23 minute breaks are logged as "off duty" you're ok, BUT off duty means just that right? No fuel, no SI's. I don't understand the 23 minute break. My logs are segmented in 15 minute sections....I don't know how you could make out a 23 minute.
Finally, you didn't have a stop point. If you started at 6am your 'stop point' is 8pm. -
1 hour................23 minutes are logged as 30 minutes
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I believe you're on the right track but I'm going to wait for Dieselbear's response before I comment more. I did show 8 PM as the end of my day.
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Want to know a real hoot? Knight just had some major logging issues, and gave us all a logging class (which, we was told, came from the evil DOT) but here is the kicker.
Knight won't have a false log flag if you log 68mph for your run.
None of the current Knight trucks will DO 68 mph. Some of the Knight trucks won't even do 62! So what I learned from this is Knight WANTS false logs, by making you drive longer and allowing you to log faster.
They didn't learn their lesson it seems.
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