Your ideal emissions setup?

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  1. loudtom

    loudtom Road Train Member

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    Animals are being killed by automobiles? No problem. Animals being killed to be put on a plate? No big deal. Animals being killed by renewables? Absolutely unacceptable!
     
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  3. LameMule

    LameMule Road Train Member

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    It's just fun to poke and prod when the word "zero" is used in reference to the emissions of the electric vehicle.
     
  4. Tug Toy

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    I was involved in a 30 truck crane move from a wind farm in central Illinois to Colorado.

    My back haul was a 30 truck crane move from Colorado to central Illinois.

    The back haul was the identical crane used to replace a broken blade on a windmill that had been put up in the last 3 months by the first crane.

    Each one took 30 truck to move and 900 miles each way.
     
  5. petefan4000

    petefan4000 Light Load Member

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    Reducing pollution, amirite? :D:D:D:D
     
  6. supergreatguy

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    OP sounding like a bored dot officer trying to dig for a better way to see what deletes are popular, or maybe I’m just too suspicious haha
     
  7. D.Tibbitt

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    DEF.... Saving the planet 1 plastic bottle and cardboard box at a time.
     
  8. petefan4000

    petefan4000 Light Load Member

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    DPF's... saving the planet by wasting a gallon of fuel at a time.
     
  9. loudtom

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    I can understand why people dislike emissions systems. Being derated is terrible, compounded by taking it into some of these shops where the people working on them barely understand the systems. But without any math, how can anyone make an informed decision? For example, what amount of increased NOx is acceptable vs the increase in fuel mileage?

    If you remove the EGR, will the increase in NOx due to higher combustion temperatures be able to be counteracted by SCR systems alone? If you remove the DPF, will the soot accumulate on the SCR, which could cause the catalyst to be less efficient and possibly decrease the lifespan of it? How much more efficient is an engine that's been deleted? I personally believe that we would be better served by having more information and tools available to understand and fix these problems on our own.

    A focus on renewable biofuels can solve the problem of sustainability, but it doesn't have any solutions to combat air pollution. Electricity can be generated in multiple ways, with the idea of tackling sustainability and air pollution simultaneously. I believe there is more hope for a potential breakthrough in energy generation, like cold fusion, than there is for developing a fuel that can burn clean.

    It's also natural that people think with their wallets. It's easy to dismiss something that is invisible, or not apparent where they live. Are the sensors just making up numbers and randomly reporting NOx faults? Are the people responsible for pushing EPA mandates major shareholders in DEF manufacturers or something?
     
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    To answer your question about the SCR keeping up without EGR. Yes. It can more then keep up while doing a parked regen which is produces way more NOX then combustion would. This would use more DEF consistently which would likely result in less DEF falls but because of the cleaner combustion there would be less soot going into the DPF resulting in less regens and less DEF used to treat NOX created by regens. Basically we would be treating NOX mostly created for power where as now we are treating NOX created for both power and heat(regens).
    As I mentioned earlier Cummins has gone away from EGR on their smaller non-road engines and has reduced the amount of EGR on the ISX. Edited I ment the X-15
     
  11. LameMule

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    Driving a modern emissions equipped truck is the equivalent of trying to run a marathon with a covid mask on.
     
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