in this day and age, lawsuits for even the most frivolous reasons take place. the o/p is just inviting that to happen to him, and it ain't gonna be frivolous.......
Potential Driver Left Drug Test....Now What!
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 68Goat, Jan 18, 2021.
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How can there be any liability on XYZ Carrier for refusing to hire a person for walking out on a drug screen?
The only question here is what is the OP's reporting requirement. You haven't answered that question with anything but fear mongering.Dumdriver, Dino soar, bryan21384 and 2 others Thank this. -
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I appreciate all the replies.
I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if I could be sued in the future if I just let it go.
But I don't want to let it go.
I feel a responsibility to people driving on these roads and a responsibility to other driver's who drive clean and do what they are supposed to do.
Even though I don't want to let it go, I'm not enjoying it. That's for sure.
tlalokay....you are right. No one has a crystal ball BUT can you give me one reason stronger than he brought someone else's urine in there as to the temperature being so low?
Also...why leave without taking the observed test?
The evidence points overwhelmingly toward him trying to pull one over on the whole system.
But I will listen if you think you have something stronger that makes more sense.
In this situation a decision has to be made and action taken one way or another.
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I'm always looking to show mercy. My nephew was in a similar situation & had to move on from the industry. This driver knew he couldn't pass the drug test & blew the opportunity. Hopefully he will grow from it. I clearly see you trying to extend the hand of mercy. There is also a responsibility you have. I would leave the message with him that he has brought this on himself as my nephew did. Your heart is right. All the best to you
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I am pretty sure that Concentra will report it to the clearinghouse. His leaving before completing the test goes down as an automatic refusal. @Moose1958 will have the right info on this.
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The OP is out of the picture on this. Maybe @Moose1958 will clarify.mjd4277, TequilaSunrise, wis bang and 1 other person Thank this. -
Refuse to submit (to an alcohol or controlled substances test) means that a driver:
"(2) Fail to remain at the testing site until the testing process is complete. Provided, that an employee who leaves the testing site before the testing process commences (see §40.63(c) of this title) a pre-employment test is not deemed to have refused to test;"
(9) Is reported by the MRO as having a verified adulterated or substituted test result.
The end of that link has the regs for what the employer is required to report to the Clearinghouse.
I'm not 100% sure about whether what the driver did constitutes "refusal" under the regs. After reading the employer reporting requirements, depending on whether what he did constitutes a refusal determines whether you are required to report or not. Your best bet is to get in touch with a DOT safety professional.
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Only the "MRO" can report a "substituted" sample, not you, unless you have "direct knowledge" of the substitution.
Also, as far as I can tell, you are only required to report what you have direct knowledge of, i.e., the driver did not complete the pre-employment drug testing procedure.
It's up to Concentra to go on record as stating the hiree submitted a "substitute" sample.650cat425 Thanks this. -
This is a situation where no one should be acting upon advice from anyone but a DOT safety professional precisely because of the stakes involved.
That said, I'm inclined towards the understanding that the employer is only required to report a lack of completing the pre-employment drug screening by the pre-hire. The testing site will report his actions as either a "refusal" or substitution of the sample.
It's up to the reporting of the testing facility whether this pre-hire has ruined his future. There's no need to help that along with unproven suspicions. All we know is that the pre-hire did not complete his test. If the testing facility told the employer the sample was below the temperature required, they can ask for another sample from the pre-hire. If he left before completion of the testing- the regs determine whether that constitutes refusal or not. It looks like pre-hires don't count as refusals. I could be wrong though.alds, Dino soar, bryan21384 and 1 other person Thank this.
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