CDL in a workzone

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chipper101, Mar 9, 2021.

  1. Chipper101

    Chipper101 Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys and gals.
    So I work for a line clearance company cutting trees away from powerlines and my chip truck is 33,000gvw so it needs a B to operate on the road. I have my permit so my foreman rides with my tonthe job site then grabs his truck. During the work day I drive my truck around my jobsite setup, as my boss said that it was legal cause we we were in our workzone...now my safety guy is having a melt down because he says it's illegal. I couldn't find anything online and thought I'd ask here
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Listen to the safety critter!
     
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  4. Capacity

    Capacity Road Train Member

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    10 4 on the safety department's recommendation.
    Or you all mite get run off.
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    My first reply was brief here is a longer one.

    I am assuming you work for a small company. In a lot of these cases "safety" is a title, not a position. I have seen this many times. I remember a case back in my hometown where the "safety" man was also doing a lot of other things. In these situations sometimes the safety man is ignored because they have no teeth like they do with a large carrier. I would highly recommend you NOT operate a CMV without the proper license. If this means you lose a job so be it. What you need to do is get finished with this process and get your CDL. A lot of discussions on these boards go back to a what-if situation. What if for some reason that truck being operated by you is involved in a fatal accident? This has the potential of becoming a nightmare for you as well as costing your company major $$$$$$. Best advice! Stay out of that vehicle until either a fully licensed driver is with you OR you get your own CDL.

    If on the other hand that workzone is NOT on a public roadway and on private property I see nothing that would prohibit you from driving that vehicle. I know several people that operate yard trucks and they only have regular operators licenses.
     
  6. Chipper101

    Chipper101 Bobtail Member

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    Moose1958, more follow up, so it is a large company and the safety guys actually have teeth here. We are following his stance for the shear fact of we don't want him seeing us lot listening snd he comes around just to heckle us. He however said that the law was stupid and if it wasn't illegal he wouldn't care because it is inconvenient even if I have to move the truck several feet. And 90% of our setups are on the public roadway
     
  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    It all depends on the vehicle being on a public roadway. If you are operating the CDL B truck on private property you don't need even a passenger car driver's license, but if you operate the same truck to cross a public road or on a public road .you need the CDL. I don't know if a public right of way is counted as a public road or private property.
     
  8. ncmickey

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    Just go take your test and end all speculation....
     
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  9. Chipper101

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    Ncmickey, already scheduled lol.
    TIscottme there was confusion as to whether a workzone established on the roadway had an exemption, as all of construction companies are allowed to operate B trucks with out licenses in the area they're working so we weren't sure if it applied to all work zones or only for construction crews.

    We are just going to do it The till I go for my test test next weem
     
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  10. Coal Region Deplorable

    Coal Region Deplorable Light Load Member

    Sometimes it can come down to how the truck is tagged. Such as if it has a regular truck registration, or if it's tagged as mobile equipment. For example in New Jersey they have a code 56 tag that says construction equipment in transit on it. You can operate that without a CDL doing some operations, but not all.and that very state-by-state and there's a lot of nuances and stuff in the law

    For example a code 56 would be okay on a bucket truck,but if you were hauling anything on that bucket truck other than tools and equipment to do the job, then you're not okay. Just for an example having chainsaws, safety harnesses, chokers, rope and stuff like that would be okay, but if you cut down a tree end loaded that tree onto the truck you'd be breaking the law.

    It's much easier to just get the cdl, and not have to worry about whose interpretation of the law is going to fly
     
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  11. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    The biggest problem to me is when the numbskull who’s cruising Tinder while driving enters your work zone & side swipes or rear ends that bucket truck you’re moving. All of a sudden what you think or what we on the forum think doesn’t matter anymore. Now the Lawyers, Judge, & Insurance companies will make that decision.
     
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