I twist them occasionally. Depends on the load. I’ve never even thought about it. I “assumed” a twist was ok. Seems natural imo
For everyone that’s against putting a twist in your straps...
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by kylefitzy, Apr 25, 2021.
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Even with a knot, the strap breaks above the WLL.
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After having the chance to sit and watch this, a couple thoughts come to mind.
The first is that every strap breaking at the same place near the spindle indicates something in that region initiating the failure. The first test is the only one with a good slomo close up, and it looks like the strap is pulled slightly into winch frame right where the failure starts. It's also possible he was getting below minimum radius and weakening the strap that way.
Also, the places on the strap where the twist collapsed? The fact they were warm indicates overloading, and likely long-term damage to the strap fibers. That's where the danger lies with twisted straps, is if they collapse. It concentrates the load onto a small portion of the webbing. Unfortunately the fact they were failing right at the ratchet didn't let us see that.
Lastly, he should have slowed the rate of tension rise. While some of the heat was surely failure related, much of it, especially at the ratchet, was generated by slippage. Slowing things down would allow that heat to dissipate without welding the strap to itself. Although one could definitely make the argument that during an accident, the rapid application of shock loads would have much the same effect.
But still a very interesting video, and and worth the watch.
Edit: As a car hauler, I see guys who don't untwist straps. Their straps quickly deteriorate to looking like a bundle of used twine.Last edited: Apr 27, 2021
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Definitely proved that a hard twist is not good. I’m sure if he made more 90 degree edges we might see some different results.
Flipping a hook around to put a slight twist on a strap like most open deck folks might do should be perfectly fine or we would see broken straps everywhere.
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I seen multiple strap failures in a real world situation. All but one of the 7 straps failed at the hook end. The strap failed on the part that goes through the hook. The other one I can only draw a conclusion ripped where the edge protection was? All straps were well used but not really damaged but probably all over 3 years old?
I use chains on those loads now.Nostalgic, staceydude, cke and 3 others Thank this. -
I throw a twist on lighter products like insulation, etc. to keep the strap from slapping and ultimately damaging the freight. But because these loads are already light I'm not worrying about strength issues. Heavier freight I'm cranking that strap down deep and usually not concerned with vibration. Also, 1. agree with @Jen72 that a twisted strap is a good way to tell if the strap is loose 2. disagree 5 straps are enough on 48k (if you're using 4" 5400lb rated straps, you'll want 8).
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48k/2=24k. So five straps.beastr123, Kyle G., Diesel Dave and 4 others Thank this. -
I just put 12 2” straps on 20` of lumber. 24k. I was in a strange mood
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