Those lumpers!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TallJoe, May 26, 2021.

  1. John E.

    John E. Light Load Member

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    My experience has been that a Jug Head will hire His buddy who is in the need of some really heavy drugs. His partner needs a fix, so He provides the fix.
    Meanwhile, Jug Head stands back doing not much of anything while His buddy who has Sunken Eyes and Frothing Lips works till he is wasted to the point of no return. Any you Driver's ever experienced that? Yeah, just awful, seen them Fall right on the floor of the trailer,, gasping for Wind.








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  3. TheLoadOut

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    This is yet another one of those topics where if drivers stuck together the whole lumping extortion thing would be non-existent. We would be talking about it in past tense. "Ah remember when we had to pay those losers at Kroger to unload their own delivery"..."yeah, what were we thinking?"
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    What's amusing here is no-one is getting extorted. This fee is always reimbursed. If it isn't it's normally due to a driver screw up by not doing their paperwork right.
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Look I'm not trying to carry the water for lumpers but I don't get the mock outrage here. Wal Mart has been doing this for about 2 years now. There is no lumper fee to be paid there by drivers. That transaction takes place between Wal Mart and their suppliers. More and more some of the better brokers I use it has already been prepaid. But I still don't see the issue here with a fee that everyone reimburses the driver for.

    I'm glad lots of people hate grocery warehouses and Wal Mart, lumpers, etc It's part of the reason I'm able to do 4 easy loads in 3-1/2 days and net over $5,000 for the trouble. I admit a tight market helps too. And Wal Mart loads always seem to be some of my best paying ones because they are so strict about on time performance issuing fines to their suppliers and 3PL's, etc.
     
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  6. TheLoadOut

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    You're right and I was trying to think of another word other than extortion but I couldn't think of one. I think the real issue is it's not something that should involve the drivers. Let the lumpers call the broker directly for payment. Everything about it is just plain shady, from just having to pay to have their freight unloaded, to the inbred junkies unloading it.
     
  7. loudtom

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    If it's anything like how we were reimbursed as company drivers(found out that it's not the same), then you are paying taxes on that reimbursed expense. They used to reimburse our scale tickets and other expenses that we pay for out of our pocket. So if the pay was $1000 a week, and they reimbursed $200 in expenses, you pay taxes on $1200 as income. So if you move a load for $3000 and pay the lumpers $300, then if the broker sends you a 1099 for $3300, then you are paying taxes on the full amount(Broker sends 1099 to IRS and your gross income is inflated, but net taxable income remains the same after expense). It's even worse if the carrier uses factoring. Now they're paying a percentage of that $300 to get it back.

    I don't believe this is mock outrage. Motor carriers are responsible for transportation, they should not be treated as financial institutions. If someone wants to borrow $300 for 30 days or whatever, shouldn't they go to a bank for that?
     
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    Reason for edit: My scenarios are not the same. I've added corrections to the misinformation.
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  8. 062

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    Y’all cry about lumpers. Who do you think unloaded the truck before the use of lumpers became common?
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I promise you I don't pay taxes on reimbursements. If you do that's on you.
     
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  10. roundhouse

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    I pulled a load of groceries exactly ONE time.

    F that noise .

    give me auto parts anyway.
     
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