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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Holy.Roller$, Jun 19, 2021.

  1. Holy.Roller$

    Holy.Roller$ Bobtail Member

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    That's sounds far fetched. A new guy buys a lemon and looses. Then cry's about more regulation on brokers? And regulating brokers to be more transparent is nonsense? Me losing affects you now? I must have some power. This is off topic. You said my choice in trucks determines whether or not Ill make it. I agree. The whole point of my question. Thanks anyways
     
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  3. Holy.Roller$

    Holy.Roller$ Bobtail Member

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    Thats crazy talk man. Are you defending brokers? If i lose my #### Im going to pass the "lost my ####" bill and require brokers to be transparent. Cmon man!
     
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  5. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Like lots of people have said you're better off going new if your thinking of emission trucks. You're not buying someone's headache. Used emission trucks that's exactly what your doing is buying someone else's headache.

    Lots of dealer's are 6 months plus out right now
     
  6. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    Oh yeah. Well I don't think it will drastically change the number of trucks on the road, only how the drivers are paid. Some borderline owner ops go back to company status while other ones go full independent and start fleets. So i think ya there be some kerfluffle, but not necessarily a glut, and definitely not a glut big enough to be worth waiting for. Plus if it happens during the current truck shortage, companies will need trucks to seat their sudden influx of new company drivers, and the only source will be the used market, which could even cause a price spike. But I also imagine a bunch of drivers selling their truck directly to their new employer, many of them likely getting taken advantage of in the sale the same way they got taken advantage of in their old 1099 gig. But hopefully if it ever passes it will get watered down some first.
     
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  7. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    Ya but some people say the first years of each new reg, like 2007-2014 generally, are the worst, and the later versions have more bugs worked out. Supposedly the new DD15 design from 2018+ is a whole lot better on emissions, but the stupid new integrated electronic dash is generating a lot of towing bills.
     
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    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    My 2015 Cummins Cascadia was originally only getting like 7.5, but the software was pretty stupid, to whenever you hit even a gentle upgrade and it wanted to downshift, it would shift down from 10th to 8th and race the engine.

    It had the slap paddle, so I started driving it in manual mode all the time to stop it from doing that stupid crap, and I got it up over 8, sometimes 8.5, winning several mpg awards even though I was driving at max speed.

    Then Cummins put out a software update, which I initially hated because it would put out a constant alarm whenever you switch to manual, so I had to leave it in auto and choke on my own tears. But it shifted a lot smarter and would even switch into neutral a lot on gentle downgrades. So it was governed at 61 but the engine brake wouldn't kick on until 65, so if it was maintaining 61-65 range it would just roll along in neutral. One time eastbound in Nebraska I timed it at 45 seconds cruising in neutral. So I reset the mpg guage and started paying attention, and sure enough it was getting well up over 9 most of the time, sometimes 9.8 in favorable terrain.
     
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  9. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    I think you have a real good shot at making it as long as you don't buy a lemon truck or a lemon 1099 gig.
     
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    That's funny because what I saw was all these old hands with big pre emissions trucks crying to congress about brokers. Same idiots with their black smoke matters ########.
     
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  11. RunningAces

    RunningAces Road Train Member

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    I purchssed a 2017 t680 cummins isx15 366k miles in September of last year for $60,000. So far I've put about 100k miles on it and got hurt by a few sharp learning curves being a new business owner and getting my authority after only about 2 years experience in the industry.

    You'll probably go through some of your own growing pains. If you get in now and rates stay high you can get that truck paid off in no time. There is always the chance of catastrophic failures with these used rigs but if you're going into business there is always a big risk of failure. ####, I've seen casinos go under.

    You don't need 10 years experience, an MBA, and a pre emissions truck to start a one man band. Guys all over the country and succeeding despite the "your emissions truck is DEFINITELY going to explode one week after you get it" crowd. They are right that the price is high for equipment right now but on the other hand you can gross 25-30k/month on the spot market. Just have to roll the dice and hope you don't get snake eyes.
     
  12. MTN Boomer

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    You can start a fleet of pre emmision trucks, for what you will pay for an emmision truck. They will have less engine problems, no Def. You can still have an E Log. You will have the normal truck problems and repairs.
     
  13. MTN Boomer

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    Words of wisdom.
     
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