1. joseph1853

    joseph1853 Heavy Load Member

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    Does anyone have any idea what Pam does for their trucks regarding PM's?

    I'm buying a truck from a dealer who bought this truck from them. Of course, they have zero information on what they've done to it. Said they had a driver try and get information from them before and he got nothing?

    I'm sure they at least do oil changes but how often?

    When I was running a Ryder lease truck they did pm's every 40,000 miles believe it or not. I wonder if pam's the same?

    Just trying to get an idea of what stuff I should be thinking about replacing on the truck filter and fluid-wise. I just found out today there's a thing called a crankcase filter and a coolant filter which I bet they never replaced but I don't know.
     
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  3. lester

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    Fluids and filters would be the least of my concern. Yeah they probably did some crazy 40 or 50,000 mile oil change intervals. Which is probably fine for fluids. My problem is the lack of greasing.
     
  4. andrewsdad

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    Just remember who PAM is a part of. They won't do anything early or if it's not needed. Back in the day, their day cabs had no radio or AC. Likely ran the oil until it was just about empty to avoid having to deal with too much used oil. If you're lucky they changed the filter before topping up the oil again.
     
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    Stay away. Wonder how many drivers been in it. Possibly 1 or 2, but likely 7 or 8.
     
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    Folks don't seem to get that. Regular greasing and kingpins, slack adjusters and u-joints will last dang near forever.
     
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    Or 40.

    Trucks get towed in most cases. New driver picks up almost every time.
     
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    Have you ever seen a PAM truck on the road? Don’t fall for the detailed look of it on the lot.
     
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    The following information is over 10 years old. I used to work in the shop for one of the companies they owned.

    When I was there they still operated several other companies that they have since folded into PAM. At that time PAM and two others ran Delvac1300 and would change the oil and filters every 45k. The other companies ran Delvac1 synthetic and would change the filters every 48k oil every 145k. They didn’t run coolant filters just dump a pint of additive in at oil or filter change. As far as greasing went the only things greasable was the king pins, drag link and tie rod ends the rest of the truck was lube for life. The s cams and slack adjusters had plugs where the zerk should be. Greasing and inspection was done every 15k or 30 days which ever came first. Back then they ran the trucks 500k we had a few s cams seize just before trade nothing grease didn’t fix and I only remember one driveline failure (that wasn’t caused by the driver) and that was the slip yoke. If memory serves me Meritor recommend at 350k to install grease zerks in the s cams and slacks then grease with their special grease every 350k.

    What they do now I have no clue but that’s what they did in the first decade of this century.

    What mileage are they getting rid of them at now?
     
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  10. joseph1853

    joseph1853 Heavy Load Member

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    Well, I'm thinking there still getting rid of them at around the 500 thousand mark. The one I'm buying has 590 on it. Every 45 thousand for an oil change dang seem's that's a long time to wait in between oil changes.
     
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  11. joseph1853

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    I called up this ryder garage I used to take the truck I ran a year or so ago. They did pm's every 40 thousand miles. Anyways thought I could get an idea of what is typically done on a pm. The guy I talked to said they do of course the oil and they grease all the grease points believe it or not. They also do a general inspection of the truck to make sure nothing needs fixing. He said that's pretty common for carriers' PMs.
     
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