swapping 14L for 12.7 ddec V

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  1. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    So what’s a downdraft tube? Exhaust? I’m lost. Do you have a grass burner on it? What year is it? What make? Just curious.
     
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  3. swaan

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    Sounds like a ddec5 14L. Down draft tube is another name for blowby pipe.

    Sounds wore out to me. Some guys run a rubber hose on the tube extending it closer to the ground. It makes less of a mess this way. Or put a catch can on the blow by tube. If your only running 10,000 a year I would probably just do that for now.
     
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  4. Rideandrepair

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    Ok, I thought egr valve eliminated the open blow by tube. I ran a big plastic hose on mine back to the rear axle. Sometimes it looked like my brakes were smoking. Still made an oily mess. I see a lot almost touching the ground. Without spending a ton at Pittsburgh power, one could be made. My long hose froze up once, in a snow storm, pushed 6 gallons out of every seal on the engine!! Shut it down in a Dock. That looked like a catastrophe. Lol. Engine still lasted another year. I wondered if maybe he was slobbering oil or diesel from exhaust.
     
  5. Don379

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    Yeah early egr detroits and cummins have blow by tubes my friend. They do indeed always puff smoke even with low miles.
     
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  6. Glenn West

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    I think I will put a catch bucket with steel wool inside on downdraft tube. Clean up camper and see how bad it does going back to Texas. In Tennessee now. It gets rid of oil too. Dropped about half a gallon in 1200 miles
     
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  7. jamespmack

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    12.7 Ddec 5 with egr and compact gear train were mass produced. 14.0L ddec 4 with non egr were produced. Dont listen to half the info in here. The older 12.7l Ddec4 for bull gear was fine, just had to keep a eye on hub bearings around 800k miles.

    You would be cheaper to over haul current engine than a swap. But I would insist on replacing head. Its were the problems lie in a high mileage egr detroit. Im not a fan of installing a used engine. But everyone is different in how they gamble.

    I would overhaul current engine with a mindful budget. Then look to a tune and maybe a gear change to add milage. 14l vs. 12.7
     
  8. Magoo1968

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    On your break in theory nowadays a lot of people do a dyno break in which helps a bunch.
     
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    I agree with this, ring material has gotten harder. You will find some liners wear more than the rings nowadays.
     
  10. Glenn West

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    Well I was way off base with this. Got under truck yesterday to install a catch bucket on downdraft tube. It was wet but everything else was too. got to looking and found oil filter very wet. Cleaned it up and ran engine. Oil coming out at turbo oil supply tube. It runs across at top of filter base. No wonder I had oil everywhere. I was going to change myself but getting to turbo hook up is tough. Local shop monday.
     
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