So im new to having a CDL...and am being trained by people that arent generally qualified either. Bad mix. So I do whatever I can to find the right answers to questions I come up with. Im interested in knowing if a binder is considered a chain in the case that I only use the binder to secure a load. I recently loaded up a small bobcat and when I went to chain down the bucket, I was thinking of if it was legal to just attach a chain binder straight to the bucket and right onto the steel of my trailer. Ive looked everywhere and cant find an answer, but have seen a video from the 80s of someone doing this to secure excavator tracks straight to the trailer with no chains. Its been alot of years since than, and im in california where regulations are bad. Anyone know or have any knowledge on this subject? Thanks in advance.
Is a binder considered a chain?
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Kev9191, Jul 22, 2021.
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In this job, you either know or you don't. Sounds dumb, but there's plenty of drivers that don't get that. You don't guess that something is ok because you seen someone else do it, or it's the way it was done years ago, or you heard it at the lunch counter.
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You can use a binder to secure load directly to trailer, without using a chain. The WLL of the lowest component is what matters. Trailer securement point, binder or chain.
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I've used binders only to secure a load with no chain. Dozer tracks, for one.
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Also you could get some 2-4` chains with a hook on one end. Use that on the spools for instance and if the binder hooks to the machine properly, then just hook other end of binder to the small chain. Some people customize their own binders with various lengths of chain on end of binders for the purpose of some small equipment
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Let's see what a manufacturer has to say, since they're the ones who actually do the designing and building...
"One part of the trailer that’s more frequently damaged is the rub rail, or tarp bar as it’s sometimes called. It’s not considered an anchor point in most cases, yet some drivers insist on using it as such. Securing cargo to the rub rail is not a recommended practice, Sabol adds. “In fact, at East we do not even rate the rub rail, because it’s not a recognized tie-down point. Drivers are not supposed to connect hooks or straps directly to the rub rail.”
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