BANDS BEYOND the 40

I doubt he has inside contacts with the FCC.

 

Point of clarification...He didn't "claim to be" the FCC, He just claimed that they were in town and were gonna get me...That kind of thing is hilarious!

Classic pencil neck that thinks everyone is afraid of the authorities because he is!
The fact is that the (so called) authorities are pretty much incapable of finding an elephant with a nosebleed in fresh snow....Much less a radio scofflaw traveling 75 MPH down the interstate!
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If the poster is talking about "Gadfly" (me), I never SAID "FCC was in town" How would I know where they might be? They RESPOND to complaints. Next, I also never said I was afraid of the authorities. I don't HAVE to be; the Norfolk agent can come visit ME anytime as I have absolutely NOTHING illegal in this house (or vehicle). Can YOU say that?
I SAID "I RESPECT THE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES OF OTHERS AS WELL AS THE LAW". *I* HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM FCC AS I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG.


For the last 8-10 years or so, FCC HAS been answering the complaints of both licensed amateurs and other services about "rambo" CBers & truckers operating their so-called (and trashy) "10 Meter 'amateur' radios" ON the 10 Meter band. They are no more an amateur radio than that elephant in the snow you spoke of! They are ILLEGAL radios and are not certified for their designed uses which is to !) have more power than allowed under Part 95 Rules for CB radio, 2) they are easily modified to include not only the 40 channels, but to operate in other "bands" and frequencies that are LEGALLY assigned to others. 3) they have "band" switches, A-B-C-D-E and so on. For your information there ARE no other "bands" for CB radio (other than FRS and MURS up on VHF and UHF). IOW, the whole REASON for their existence is to VIOLATE the law, STEAL bands and frequencies from OTHER users.............which is WHY they are ILLEGAL!

Now what makes hams angry is NOT what truckers and other CBers do on those 40 channels; it's what they do on the 10 and 12 Meter amateur bands. Unlicensed people have NO business ON those bands using illegal radios and also ILLEGALLY modified radios in order to do it. The hams (and it isn't just ME) have gone out and FOUND truckers------YES!~ Driving at 75 MPH!!!!!!!

One of the most "famous" sayings of untrained, and thus, unaware, CB operaters is that a mobile station cannot be "caught". Surely, in THIS day and age of computers and technology, a person with any radio savvy at all knows better. OR...................um, in the case of CB that depends so much on myth, legend, and Bubba Joe's CB shop out back of the truck stop, maybe NOT. You can be nailed in a FLASH if they want you!
The equipment in an FCC vehicle is simply AWESOME! And, yes, I HAVE seen it! DID some ride-alongs with an agent or two. In a nutshell, their equipment is like ONStar on steroids! They don't even use "white vans" anymore (some people STILL believe they drive 1970 Ford Econolines with bulky, tube-driven test equipment. Nope, It might be a
new Chevy Tahoe or an Impala, the occasional Crown Vic. The measuring equipment (for mobile tracking) is BUILT INTO THE DASH so neatly you won't spot it until you peek in or sit down in the vehicle.There are NO visible antennas; maybe ONE innocent-looking antenna that looks like a "CB". If they are investigating you, you will NEVER know until its too late!!

They do have Field Strength meters and portable Spectrum Analyzers in the trunk/back of the car. If you actually think they cannot find you if they WANT to, you are either stupid or supremely ignorant of their abilities. And the Field Agents are college-degreed electronic engineers! A illegal operator can try to blow smoke up their a-- all they want to, but they aren't fooled; they already KNOW, using the equipment contained in their car, what they are looking for and WHERE the signal is coming from. They CAN pinpoint it down to that level!

So how DID the hundred plus truckers get caught while doing 75 down the road? They "caught" themselves. How? With their OWN mouths!!!! Hams often have unusual, or multiple, antennas on their cars. Many of them, CBers have not seen! So MR. Motor Mouth trucker sees this car pass while he's yakkin' on 28 MHZ and calls out, "How 'boucha that l'il car with all them antennas; ya copy?" That ham is LISTENING (or scanning) 10 Meters. He then "innocently" allows the truck to pass him (as cars and trucks do on the road). Nobody pays any attention to it.

The ham will NOT answer the trucker for 2 reasons:

1) it is illegal to communicate with an obviously ILLEGAL station by anyone.

2) the trucker, again, ignorant of the rules of amateur radio AND CB, usually is operating on the lower end of 10 Meters which is RESERVED for DIGITAL and Morse Code operations.

3) It is illegal even for the HAM to talk on those frequencies using any voice mode.

So, the ham quietly writes down the truck number off the door, company name, (and any other info he can get), and sends it in to the Special Counsel for Amateur Enforcement. She, in turn, WILL send a letter of warning to the driver's company. It usually results in the company forcing drivers to REMOVE any illegal radios from their trucks! A driver or two were FIRED over it (according to the former Counsel)! If they continue to violate the law, and get caught AGAIN? The company then is LIABLE for a large FINE. Do you think THEY are going to just pay up and let you keep talking on 10 Meter radios??

Hams don't (that I know of) come down onto CB hassling drivers. Most of them would not do that, nor would they even use one of those "bootleg" fake 'ham' radios like a Connex. IF they DO, THAT is also illegal (if they break any rules like using their HAM radio to talk on CB). IT could get them in serious trouble---and it SHOULD!

In closing, you can't blame ME for most of the truckers getting caught. Most of them were in Michigan, Oregon, California, Pennsylvania, Some in NC, SC, and Georgia. If it were ME doing it, Gee...........I would sure be doing a lot of traveling.

So anyone can certainly go ahead and break the law. I ain't stopping ya! I'm just telling folks what is right and what can happen if you encroach on the 10 Meter band. I'm sorry it may make some of us mad because you can't "play" there, but, like speeding, breaking into houses, breaking any laws, it carries a risk. If you STAY on the 40 CB channels, I doubt you will ever hear about the Feds. But if you go onto "them extra channels" that you have no business on, and DO get caught, the fines can run over $11,000! *I* just tell the facts as I know them.

It's up to you, NOT "Gadfly".

GF

 

It's absolutley hilarious that you think that I thought that YOU were the idiot that came on the radio and acted like a moron "IN THE SEVENTIES!!!!"

I couldn't care less about all of the high tech equipment that the FCC has in their cars or that you guys drive around looking for big bad radio outlaws! (Kinda pathetic)
Because I don't break the law other than a mildly hot rodded radio in my truck and maybe sometimes a drive a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

I think it's funny that some of you get so wound up over things that are so insignificant.

Yeah...I know it's important to you.

But you come to a TRUCKER WEBSITE and talk down to drivers and insult drivers and generally act like a jerk and expect anyone to take you seriously?

News flash DUDE...No one cares what you think when you come off like that!

 

How often does a semi truck driver call out to anyone but another trucker? Most truck drivers, as I have learned, do not like to talk to a 4 wheeler that happens to have a radio in their car. Why, I don't know.....snobbish maybe?

Me personally I'm not a truck driver but I do enjoy a chat with another trucker that's willing to have a good conversation.

I have heard of hams that get on the CB bands just to piss off those using the band, thinking they (the hams) are "holier than thou". Of course I don't think all hams are like this, just a few that have their nose in the air.

 

Most hams WON'T get ON CB at all; ham radio has so much MORE to offer, why WOULD they even WANT to yak-yak-yak on there when there are so many more frequencies and bands, exotic places to talk to that CBers only wish they could talk to. The few that DO come there and harass CBers are likely the ones who have a "beef" with the outlaw nature of CB which is a peculiar piece of "baggage" that only RARELY occurs with the LICENSED services). Chances are, they are angry because they've been splattered by an junk CB amp that interferes with 10/12 Meters, or somebody has bought themseves a Connex SUPER-DUPER so-called "amateur' radio and went up onto 10 Meters and gave 'em an ole 'shout' (thar). ("DUH, How 'boucha thar, this h'yar's the old Sandlapper in Central South C'lina, y'all got an' ole copy thar? Yore a-blowin' smoke into these h'yar sandhills of South C'lina, break broke thar, mercy sakes, gre't day 'live, ah garn-tole ye!!!" WHOOOWEEEEEE! BOY! Does THAT ever set the hams' teeth on edge! A few may be bold enough to go down there and aggravate the CBers. But THAT is JUST as illegal as the CBer coming up onto 10 Meters!
If somebody does that on 11 Meters, and you know its a ham, TURN his BUTT IN!!!!! He is likely to lose his license for it.


CB is "stuck" on that ONE band when the REAL DX is down on 18 MHZ, or 14 MHZ, and, sometimes 7 MHZ. DO I have a CB radio? Yes. The one at home is almost NEVER turned on; I don't know if it still works. The one in the car is a little Radio Shack unit that I bought in 1976. It still works. Almost NEVER keyed; just listen when the traffic stops on the Interstate. When I found out which lane to get in, I do it, then turn it back OFF without a word. I don't even LISTEN to CB because I don't CARE what CBers do on CB. It's when people think they're special and can just show up on any frequency they want to that makes other users of radio angry! It is a curious thing how this is something that is peculiar to CB radio. They just HAVE to have something "ILLEGAL" to satisfy them. Gotta have modified radios so they kin git on them "extra channels" that don't belong to them!!!!!! WHY IS that? We've got these people coming up onto OUR licensed allocations, and WOE be unto anyone that dares to object to it! They now become "holier than thou", or "hammies" or "nose in the air". OH NO! Why don't I get in your truck and RUMMAGE in your things, huh? Why, you say, THAT'S illegal and I'll call the cops!" But if a ham reports some clown yapping his mouth on 10 Meters, OH NO!!!!!! AAAAAAAAK! HE'S a SNITCH because the "pore ole CBER" got FINED for BREAKING THE LAW! It's a double standard folks! We want the law to bend so that it works for US, and to HELL with the other fellow!!!!! When some goon shows up on 10 Meters, HE is rummaging thru MY things because I have permission to occupy those bands/frequencies; HE does not!

I have no beef with "CB" itself. It's hearing some ignorant stupe yapping his trap on the ham bands without license/authorization that p---es me off!. If he WASN'T stupid, he wouldn't BE on there in the first place! He'd know that the lower end of 10 Meters is RESERVED for Morse Code, RadioTeletype (RTTY), and Packet modes. Even the hams themselves are not to be "talking" there with voice modes! But THEY think "them 'ar channels" are available to them because they "ain't hearing nobody a-talkin'". BUT, that "noise" they are hearing that sounds like "BRRRRR-RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP"! IS "talking"-------------by the LEGAL and RIGHTFUL USERS of the band! He would also know that he has 40 channels by LAW, no more, no less. He would not BE on 10 Meters.

THAT's the difference. So long as people STAY where they are supposed to be, I-don't-care! But I WILL warn people that going onto others' turf without authorization is WRONG and carries penalties. THAT'S why I come here.

GF